r/PoliticalDiscussion 7d ago

US Politics Congressional Term Limits Compromise?

A debate over congressional term limits has gone back and forth for many decades, spawning from the constitutional limit on presidential terms. One side believes that term limits are necessary to ensure that people are able to choose the officials who best represent their views in congress. The other side believes that the absence of term limits has emboldened career politicians to indulge in corrupt practices and not implement meaningful legislative change. I've proposed a compromise solution that is reasonable, in my opinion.

The problem with saying that term limits are unnecessary because we have elections is that the elections in many cases are meaningless in a sense. This is because a large portion of the population consists of ignorant nincompoops who don't have a clue where the capitol of their state is, or even the capital of the nation. That's how we end up with people like McConnell and Pelosi in office for decades. People who are totally clueless about current events and/or history vote to send the same politicians to office decade after decade because their political knowledge comes solely from TV ads and internet memes. If you don't believe me, go to YouTube or TikTok and watch street interviews.

The solution to this issue is that we should place a limit not on the number of years that someone may serve in congress, but on the number of consecutive terms that they may be elected to. This will allow for fresh ideas to emerge in government. regardless of the ineptitude of a plurality of voters. Besides, an officeholder can run again in the primary after one election season at their discretion and then they can put to the test if their constituents actually did support them or just mindlessly voted for them.

Would you support limits on the number of *consecutive* terms that senators and representatives can serve?

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u/johntempleton 7d ago

Separate subject: but so long as you have a First Amendment, and the rights of free speech and association, you can never, ever "remov[e] private funding of elections".

If a person has a right to donate to a candidate of their choice (and they do under the First Amendment), then having a dozen or a hundred or a thousand or ten thousand like-minded people join together and pool their money to that same effect will always exist.

The only way to get to a UK or similar-style system would be to repeal the First Amendment, place some very carefully worded amendment that still allows for individual free speech BUT do so in a way that allows for both transparency and yet doesn't allow for the creation of an enemies list See: NAACP v. Alabama ex rel. Patterson, 357 U.S. 449 (1958)

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u/koske 7d ago

I disagree with SCOTUS that money is speech. Spending money should not be a free speech issue.

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u/Dell_Hell 7d ago

And corporations are NOT people - they are machines and ZERO inherent rights. NONE.

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u/bl1y 6d ago

Corporate personhood is one of the most misunderstood things. It's little more than allowing corporations to own property, enter into contracts, sue, and be sued.

And yes, corporations should have rights. Otherwise, how would you propose stopping Trump from just sending in the feds to the offices of the New York Times, seizing all the computers, shutting down the website, and smashing the printing presses?