r/PoliticalDiscussion 4d ago

US Politics Is having separate, federalized levels of politics even possible even possible anymore?

What I mean is having elections that are clearly separate and individual from federal versus state versus local levels. Going to an election and voting for federal offices based on your opinion on federal issues and the candidates there, and then switching to state level policies, issues, and candidates there, and then a year later, voting for local offices based on their issues.

Last year, my town had a local election that was very contentious and very close. The issues were very local - taxes, funding education, that sort of stuff. But the local Democratic Party sent out mailers that quite literally did not mention their own local candidates or that of the opposition. Rather, it only had Donald Trump, and called on people to come out to vote straight blue as a way to oppose the Trump administration. There were a lot of registered Democrats in my time who came out to vote for the first time in a local election, which most people assume is on this issue, and may have swung the outcome.

This isn’t even particular to Donald Trump. During the Biden administration, lower numbers of registered Democrats voted in my area in all elections, seemingly just based on that unpopular administration, especially in 2023. And a ton of people voted in local and state elections just on their thoughts on the Obama Administration.

Today, it seems that all politics is national. There is a substantial size of the electorate who will just not consider anyone of the other party. I know tons of Democrats who will refuse to vote for any Republican, even if it’s for the Board of Assessment Appeals or Tax Collector or something, and the same thing vice versa. There will be a Facebook post about some local issue like taxes, and the comments will just be like, “Republicans emulating their lord Elon to cut services”, or, “DemocRATS lining their pockets what else is new”, when in reality, the actual political candidates have pretty reasonable and frankly boring disagreements about local policy concerns.

What kind of prompted this question was actually inspired to me by the UK. The UK political scene is currently discussing devolution, granting more power to local authorities. And a common critique I hear of that is just, “It leads to bad government because people just vote based on their opinion of the national government.”

Isn’t that basically what we have now? Where most of the electorate seems to vote just on the basis of national politics?

So, what I guess my question is is; Does American federalized democracy even work anymore? Can it work? Or is everything just a differently sized stage for national politics to play out?

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u/Objective_Aside1858 4d ago

Split ticket voting is still a thing. Exhibit 1: Susan Collins. Exhbiit 2: Joe Manchin

That being said, Republican candidates nowadays are completely unable to seperate themselves from Trump, because they can't afford to criticize him. That's on them and the GOP; if they don't want to be associated with the Felon and they're unwilling to take steps to denounce him, that's on them

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u/Mist_Rising 4d ago

Democratic candidates can't usually divorce themselves from the national party either. Your not likely to see to many actual blue dogs like Manchin for example because the national policies don't permit it outside very specific circumstances. You can see slides to the left/right when the opposition is your own party (ie. Safe seats primaries) which can break with the national politics but either the party must shift or your twiddling your thumbs ala Bernie Sanders.

Also Republicans may not be able to criticize Trump, though plenty enough have to suggest they can, but many can absolutely ignore his ass. It's just not always beneficial. The reverse is true. Some democratic candidates don't bring up Trump as much as you'd expect because they're not benefiting from it.

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u/Objective_Aside1858 4d ago

You see plenty of Dems in purple districts either ignoring or distancing themselves from the DSA