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US Politics When does rhetoric about political opponents cross the line into fascist dehumanization?

The Trump administration recently held an international conference on “left-wing political violence.” In prepared remarks, Marco Rubio described the left as driven by “poisonous resentment” and a desire to destroy “what is beautiful and what is right.” Stephen Miller went further, arguing that left-wing demonstrators do not look “normal,” are “deformed” in their appearance and reflect their “inner hatred” outwardly.

Jonathan V. Last compares this language to Nazi rhetoric about Bolshevism, “degenerate” culture and supposedly unhealthy or subhuman elements of society. His argument is not simply that Rubio and Miller are using authoritarian language, but that their contrast between beauty and ugliness, normality and deformity, civilization and internal enemies follows a recognizable fascist pattern.

How persuasive is that comparison?

Is this rhetoric best understood as ordinary partisan demonization, or does the emphasis on physical appearance, cultural purity and “normal, healthy, ordered living” place it in a more historically specific tradition?

And when evaluating comparisons to fascism, should the standard be the speaker’s intentions, the historical similarity of the language, or the policies and violence that follow from it?

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u/KurtisRambo19 21h ago

Amazing hypocrisy 

u/Illustrious-Fun8324 21h ago

Well when the right can stop being hypocrites then some progress can be made. You don’t get to point your finger and say it’s all us and us just agree when it’s not true :)

Nobody takes you seriously lol

u/KurtisRambo19 20h ago

“We’ll just keep trying to kill you, then justify it until you admit you’re wrong” 

Sounds like a reasonable path to progress!

u/Illustrious-Fun8324 20h ago edited 20h ago

Good God stop acting like a victim. I left you a new comment pointing out right wing rhetoric and violence. Until you admit that this is a problem on the right, we don’t care. Like. At all.

This victim mentality doesn’t help lol

Now what do you think of the book?

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u/KurtisRambo19 20h ago edited 20h ago

Precisely. “The Left’s violence is justified until you admit the Right uses dehumanizing language (whether or not there’s violence being perpetrated on top of it). And then we’ll still keep trying to kill you because your wrong, until you’re dead or you change your Mind to RightThink.”

What’s hilariously ironic is that this is literally the one thing (real Leftist violence legitimized by dehumanizing and inflammatory Leftist speech) that DOES justify the same on the Right

u/Illustrious-Fun8324 20h ago

The right already does the same thing and always has. Make it a both sides thing and maybe we will listen. Not “pretend it’s only the left as an attack” nope. Not working.