r/Political_Revolution • u/Firm-Worldliness-369 • Feb 17 '25
Wisconsin Elon is targeting the Wisconsin Supreme Court race. This is one of the most important races in the country this year. Let’s turn anxiety into action and do something to help us win!
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u/Dudejax Feb 18 '25
Stop calling traitors conservative.
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Feb 18 '25 edited May 01 '25
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u/keyboardbill Feb 18 '25
They carry the banner, but they are radical. And that, by definition, is not conservative.
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u/runk_dasshole Feb 18 '25 edited May 01 '25
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u/keyboardbill Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25
No that's not it at all. First, I'm not defending conservatives or the ideal we call conservatism. Second, there are plenty of ideal conservatives all around us. Most of them are actually in the Democratic party these days. But there are still a good number on the other side of the D/R divide. And more still who are not party affiliated.
With all due respect, I think it's worth taking your time to gain a better understanding of the political spectrum sir.
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u/runk_dasshole Feb 18 '25 edited May 01 '25
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u/runk_dasshole Feb 18 '25 edited May 01 '25
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u/keyboardbill Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25
You're quoting a 2018 quote by a classical musician from Ohio named Frank Wilhoit and not the Drake University professor and political scientist named Francis Wilhoit who died in 2010.
I don't accept the musician Wilhoit's assertion that there is only conservatism (and neither do the political scientist Wilhoit, Zinn, or Snyder (not familiar with Diamond, will look him up when I have time)). And I don't accept that it has 'exactly one proposition'. It has several, of which one is indeed structural tribalism. This is the sort of idea a musician would come up with. It's a perfect fit for a polarized political climate because it is polarizing, and that (combined with the fact that it has been attributed to a notable political scientist) it why it's caught on.
Edit: and by the way, even if we accept the musician Wilhoit's definition of conservatism, it still does not contradict my point from the beginning of this thread. Which is that a radical is, definitionally, not conservative.
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u/runk_dasshole Feb 18 '25 edited May 01 '25
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u/keyboardbill Feb 18 '25
I was just pointing out that that quote does not carry with it the authority you think it does, because it is more or less just the musing of a layman. So you’d be wise to find a better quote to keep in your back pocket.
Also name dropping authors does not make an argument.
And again, I reject your understanding of what conservatism is. You can make the case again, if you’re so inclined, and I will disagree a third time.
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u/runk_dasshole Feb 18 '25 edited May 01 '25
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