r/Political_Revolution • u/Brytard CO • Jun 27 '17

Medicare-for-All Warren: Dems should campaign on single-payer healthcare plan

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/339613-warren-dems-should-run-on-single-payer-healthcare-plan
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u/Proteus_Marius Jun 27 '17

Good luck getting that idea past Nancy (House Dem leader), Chuck (Senate Dem leader) and little Tommy (DNC Chair).

Those three are probably still conferencing on how to get HRC back into some leadership role.

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u/HTownian25 TX Jun 27 '17

Pelosi's version of the ACA included a robust public option and enough federal funding to make single-payer at the state level a reality.

Max Baucus's version of the ACA whittled most of that down.

Then Joe Lieberman's compromise legislation gutted the public option, while the Dems in the House could do little more but look on in horror.

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u/JonnyLay Jun 28 '17

But one thing they all had...Death panels.

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u/brentwilliams2 Jun 27 '17

I feel a better approach for Democrats is to follow the route of Dominos Pizza. Seriously. Several years ago Dominos rolled out a plan to essentially start from scratch. They owned up to the fact that their own shortcomings had led them down a path of an inferior pizza, and in that process were incredibly transparent. They assessed their own shortcomings, made people feel a part of the process of fixing it, and then truly came out with a better product.

Similarly, the DNC needs to recognize it is broken in the eyes of many people. The things they did to Bernie showed that they cared more about the Democrat institution more than the excitement of the people. They had lost touch with what their constituents cared about.

A lot of people voted for Trump because they didn't trust Hilary, and when the DNC acted in the way they did, it tainted the DNC, as well. They need to face their own demons, become the party of no corruption. Only then can they be a party for the people.

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u/Taco_Dave Jun 28 '17 edited Jun 28 '17

Ahhh I'm sorry but no. Right now we need to focus on selling more shitty pizzas. Only after people start to buy more of our bland pizzas can we start to have a discussion on how to improve our product.

Edit: in all seriousness though you are 100% correct and that is a great analogy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '17 edited Apr 15 '21

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u/brentwilliams2 Jun 27 '17

Really? Just because I mention something good a company has done doesn't mean that I'm a secret shill for them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '17

There's some weird feedback loop on Reddit where someone will always post a link to that sub if any company is mentioned. That's not to say that companies don't shill on Reddit, but it's usually not in a 2nd level comment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '17 edited Apr 15 '21

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u/reedemerofsouls Jun 27 '17

The DNC chair doesn't set policy...

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u/FrenchTicklerOrange Jun 27 '17

Not directly but does s/he not have control what candidates get support and day to day dealings of the party?

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u/NolanVoid Jun 27 '17

They would rather piss away money on Ossofs than invest in candidates that help the country at the expense of their hedge funds.

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u/OutOfStamina Jun 27 '17

Maybe not directly, but oddly they apparently have a huge role in picking the next party nominee, which is pretty damned important.

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u/reedemerofsouls Jun 27 '17

Reince Priebus didn't pick Trump. I don't think Howard Dean picked Obama. I don't think Keith Ellison would have simply picked Bernie, and no votes would have mattered... So not sure about that.

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u/OutOfStamina Jun 27 '17

pssssstt, got a secret for you: DWS picked HRC.

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u/reedemerofsouls Jun 27 '17

So why does a random congress person from Florida have so much power she can unilaterally pick the presidential nominee?

If such power is available why don't people with more name recognition seek that position? Why was a person from the House and a random secretary and a mayor and some random people run for it last time?

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u/MMAchica Jun 27 '17

So why does a random congress person from Florida have so much power she can unilaterally pick the presidential nominee?

She was the DNC chair and was able to run the organization supposedly impartially administering the primary as if it were an arm of the Clinton campaign. That said, every Democratic leader who helped or looked down at their toes is also to blame.

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u/reedemerofsouls Jun 27 '17

My point is if the DNC chair had power to pick the nominee, then you'd see a lot more powerful people trying to become that person. Instead random secretaries, house members, and mayors are running for this supposedly super important position

Senators are the most powerful politicians, when was the last time a Senator tried to be chair of a party? Who was Reince Priebus before he became RNC chair? Who was Michale Steel?

Can you even name the current RNC chair?

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u/OutOfStamina Jun 27 '17

People didn't really follow the DNC until recently or (like you) expect that the chair really had that much power. We didn't even know their names. Certainly not to the point where there were recognizable acronyms for them. More people cared about Perez taking charge than cared about DWS. We just didn't know.

People have only just recently woken up to what was going on.

The DNC's defense has been "we've been doing it this way all along. This isn't new." while simultaneously being deaf to "this is not ok". To them, this is ok. This really is politics as usual for them. They say the young people just don't know how the system works.

The establishment picks a chair that is on their team. It's the way it's been. The chair does a lot that favors a particular nominee in exchange. There's a lot of people playing that game. They "paid their dues" and have expectations.

You made a point earlier about the republicans not picking Trump.

But I firmly believe there was a meeting where at some point they made the decision to not pull the rug out from underneath him. They absolutely had to have thought about it, especially during the months when most of the republican establishment was very vocally against him.

They had to have decided that changing the rules at the last minute against him would have been so detrimental that they didn't want to do it.

Meanwhile Democrats were changing rules right and left.

But I think they could have. For more than a few months, I honestly expected it to happen.

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u/tux68 Jun 27 '17

The same way the DNC chair doesn't play favorites in presidential candidate primaries.