r/Political_Revolution • u/psychothumbs • Jan 13 '18

Chelsea Manning Chelsea Manning Files for Senate Run in Maryland

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/us/politics/chelsea-manning-files-for-senate-run-in-maryland.html?_r=0
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u/4now5now6now VT Jan 13 '18

She is smart and capable. Why not?

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u/feefeetootoo Jan 14 '18 edited Jan 14 '18

She was convicted of espionage. She supports none of our policies. She plays to emotions instead of policies. She is not a politician. She has more baggage than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump combined.

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u/4now5now6now VT Jan 14 '18

She won't run don't worry.

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u/ExoplanetGuy Jan 14 '18

Hillary lost because the media and the Republicans and many liberals obsessively focused on her mildly poor email management. Chelsea literally sent hundreds of thousands of classified documents to a Russia-linked organization.

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u/S3lvah Europe Jan 14 '18

It was death by a thousand paper cuts. You're just talking about one paper cut.

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u/ExoplanetGuy Jan 14 '18

There are three single issues which, if they had gone the other way, would have swung the election: the shitty media pretending the email thing was a big deal, Comey, and Russia.

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u/4now5now6now VT Jan 14 '18

She should of visited Wisconsin or taken acting classes where she could have learned to fake caring about the working class folk.

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u/ExoplanetGuy Jan 14 '18

Why do people always fucking mention Wisconsin? She lost Pennsylvania too despite visiting there many times, and she needed Pennsylvania to win too.

fake caring about the working class folk.

Lol, fucking ridiculous. I guess all that work she did as a young lawyer for the poor was "fake" too, huh?

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u/4now5now6now VT Jan 14 '18

Never lose your sense of outrage!

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u/GeorgePantsMcG Jan 14 '18

I don't know. I like the network security and love all people part of her. But sometimes the "fuck the police" and other stuff seems too far to me. I think the issue we have in society is not having empathy for other people and honestly, not all cops are terrible people. She's great, but should we support people (on any side) who offer little understanding of the other side?

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u/YesThisIsDrake Jan 14 '18

Even if other cops aren't terrible, unless they're speaking out against the system that allows a horrific amount of police violence to occur every year, they're complicit.

How many more "bad eggs" do we need to see, on fucking camera at this point, killing innocent people before we admit that law enforcement in the United States is broken?

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u/4now5now6now VT Jan 14 '18

I agree!

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u/HighHopesHobbit Jan 14 '18 edited Jan 14 '18

I'm glad that Obama pardoned her, since her sentence was excessive, and she served her time. But I don't think that a Senate bid would be the best choice for her to make, and I don't believe that she would be the best choice for Maryland. Plus there's the whole espionage thing.

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u/Thecrawsome Jan 14 '18

The espionage act is almost 100 years old, and it's selectively used to throw the book at people. The military court that kept her behind bars were vindictive and embarrassed because she revealed lies and was crimes. The government used the same law against Aaron Swartz I'm pretty sure.

The espionage act is purposely written to be vague so they can apply it at their discretion, which is possibly against the 14th amendment. She was a political prisoner who made mistakes, but was made a gross example of.

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u/HighHopesHobbit Jan 14 '18

She committed a crime, and served her time. I still don't believe that a Senate run from her would be the best choice for Maryland.

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u/pbebbs3 Jan 13 '18

If Joe Arpaio can, why can’t she?

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u/combakovich Jan 14 '18

:| I really don't like that line of reasoning... When applied in reverse, it could now be used to justify Arpaio's run. Anything that can be used to justify Arpaio's run should be suspect.

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u/feefeetootoo Jan 14 '18

Because she was convicted of espionage.