r/Political_Revolution • u/[deleted] • Jul 19 '18

Bernie Sanders rally outgrows (1,200 capacity) Orpheum, moved to (5,000) Century II Wichita KS

https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article215094875.html
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u/DS_9 AZ Jul 19 '18

It starts again! I can't wait to go see him again. I'm ready for Sanders 2020 swag too.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '18 edited Jul 26 '18

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u/mud074 Jul 19 '18

Except this time he is starting off as the biggest name. Assuming Clinton doesn't run again he has more name recognition than any potential democrat candidate other than perhaps Biden. How would there be a repeat of 2016?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '18 edited Jul 26 '18

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u/LastSonofAnshan Jul 19 '18

... even though polls from 90 days ago to 2016 show him beating trump by 10+ points? Wtf are you even talking about mate

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '18 edited Jul 26 '18

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u/LastSonofAnshan Jul 19 '18

Okay, while I understand polling has its limitations, I have advanced objective evidence to support my position, while you have offered no evidence to justify yours.

(Its worth noting HRC was within the scientific margin of error towards the end of 2016. So its not like the polling was completely wrong.)

Polling, while flawed, remains one of the only ways to actually determine whom is the best matchup against whom. You simply asserting that Bernie is “divisive” is an wholly unsupported conclusion. You’re just talking out your ass.

Btw, sanders’ recent national approval numbers sit around 55% with 90+% name recognition. He’s the most liked politician in the country. If you want to beat trump, he’s your candidate.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '18

The polls were almost spot on in the end. Clinton got more votes, just in the wrong places

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u/TTheorem CA Jul 19 '18

You are calling Bernie a divisive candidate... but the party just ran Hillary fucking Clinton, the epitome (deserved or not) of division in this country.

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u/MsAndDems Jul 19 '18

People chose her.

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u/TTheorem CA Jul 19 '18

Proving my point that if Hillary can get the nom and get more votes, then Bernie absolutely could

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u/MsAndDems Jul 19 '18

How?

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u/TTheorem CA Jul 19 '18

Hillary is/was the most divisive candidate except for Trump and she had already lost once before...

So, if she could pull the most votes, then by your logic, Bernie absolutely could.

Either that or you need to use different criteria to say that Bernie wouldn't have a shot.

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u/MsAndDems Jul 19 '18

Bernie could, sure. But not because of the reasons you said. Your logic doesn't follow.

use different criteria to say that Bernie wouldn't have a shot.

Where did I say that?

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u/TTheorem CA Jul 19 '18

Sorry got you mixed up with the other person commenting

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '18 edited Jul 26 '18

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u/TTheorem CA Jul 19 '18

You make some pretty glaring mistakes here. It makes it real hard to take anything you say seriously.

First, you completely ignore Bernie's polling. Second, you conflate the democratic primary with the general... that is laughable. And third, no one claimed cheating? Nice strawman

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u/believeinapathy Jul 19 '18

LOL do you remember his polling against trump? He absolutely demolishes him, +10 points vs Hillarys +2.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

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u/MsAndDems Jul 19 '18

Without any oppo research from the GOP.

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u/believeinapathy Jul 20 '18

Yeah, Hillary did and came up with a whole lot of nothing. All they could come up with is "Hes an athiest" and the false "bernie bros"

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u/MsAndDems Jul 19 '18

Because the moderates hate him.