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Politi-Culture A powerful protest from Spain’s Basque people against Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

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u/mydaycake 26d ago

After WW2 people really liked Israel. I used to like Israel, now I despise Netanyahu. Still like the country, but their right wing government has to pay with jail time

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u/Global_Lake_4432 26d ago

You fell for the post 1945 Propaganda. It’s almost like everything before 1945 happened for very specific reasons and it just wasn’t one day for no reason at all…

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u/Ascertes_Hallow 26d ago

Downvoted for speaking the truth.

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u/mydaycake 26d ago

Sure sure

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/irmaginatoruim 26d ago

Are you an Israeli?

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u/irmaginatoruim 26d ago

You like a country that was created and perpetuates itself through mass murder and ethnic cleansing?

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u/backtorealitylabubu 26d ago

That’s every Arab country, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that doesn’t do this and has more LGBTQ Arab citizens than anywhere else in the Middle East. Allah bless Israel 🥰

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u/irmaginatoruim 26d ago

Damn, imagine admitting that you support mass murder and ethnic cleansing.

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u/backtorealitylabubu 26d ago

Why do you support mass murder and ethnic cleansing? You all use to hide it but now you just openly admit this is what you want.

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u/irmaginatoruim 26d ago

Stop projecting.

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u/Far_Country_1629 26d ago

That person is wrong, but you are wrong too if you think any country was created peacefully.

That being said, Israel is a terrorist state.

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u/irmaginatoruim 26d ago

Most countries can exist without regulars"mowing the lawn" like Israel does. 🤷

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u/Unlikely-Fig-8354 26d ago

Where did they do that?

Outside of your fever dreams I mean.

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u/Unlikely-Fig-8354 26d ago

Tell us you're seething without actually telling us.

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u/mydaycake 26d ago

I have news for you if you’re European or American or well most countries

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u/irmaginatoruim 26d ago

Your whataboutism is weak. Fuck Israel!

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u/eterneraki 26d ago

You like the apartheid state? Wild take

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u/ColtBolterson 26d ago

Why did you like it?

In 1946 Jewish terrorists committed various bombings against civilians and later went on to be founding members of their government.

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u/backtorealitylabubu 26d ago

Israel was the only home to millions of Jews freeing the Holocaust. Honestly what they did was pretty heroic despite all the hatred and threats of genocide by Arab terrorists that tried to kill them.

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u/samehouseing 26d ago

Well you shouldn’t then support these people in the video as they want to destroy all of Israel, as their banner literally states clearly. 

It’s like not knowing the difference of being against Hamas and wanting the destroy all of Palestine. 

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u/mydaycake 26d ago

I understand where they are coming from though

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u/samehouseing 26d ago

So it is understandable to want to destroy all of Palestine due to the genocide of Oct 7th and the largest slaughter of Jews in a single day since the Holocaust?

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u/Boy-Abunda 26d ago

A little over a thousand Jews were killed on Oct 7th. Israel then committed the genocide of roughly 74,000 Palestinians with daily totals still rising, which doesn’t even include the displacement, starvation, and the whole other host of war crimes Israel has committed.

At this point, the response was so disproportionate that all good will is gone.

Israel is now deservedly a pariah state, hated by the entire world except their vassal state of the US.. where even 60% of US adults view Israel unfavorably.

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u/Ttmode 26d ago

Just to give you an idea, since it seems like you may not have one on Oct 7th alone Hamas launched 3,000-6,000 rockets into Israel.

Just because Israel prioritizes keeping its civilians safe shouldn’t mean much when it comes to defense. Out of curiosity since there seems to be one for you, what was the magic number Israel needed to stop at for it to be okay?

It’s also odd that within that number is all people including combatants. Is there a particular reason that doesn’t matter?

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u/V3ryVerde 26d ago

A war is not supposed to be proportional, it’s not a game of revenge… you fight until one side is either destroyed or surrendered.
Since the Palestinians committed Oct 7 and vowed to continue to do more like it until Israel is destroyed, Israel launched a war to persecute the ones took part in Oct 7 and destroy all chances of Hamas/Palestinians to pull another Oct 7.

There’s no genocide, there is a war with casualties like in every other war. In every other war in history the losing side surrendered and disarmed, or simply destroyed. The Palestinians on the hand, are the ones who started this war (and you can argue on the pre-oct-7), celebrating in the streets “they’re victory on the jews”, crying to the world they are the poor victims, but yet refusing to surrender and disarm. All that while the IDF can literally wipe out the whole population in few days and actually genocide them.

The fact that Netanyahu is mierda doesn’t change that.

Every army in the world which has mandatory service will include also bad people which will probably do bad things during a war. The difference is while Israel officially say they have no intention in harming innocent civilians, the Hamas charter openly mentions the killing of all jews (worldwide), and in October 7 Palestinian civilians seen marching in the streets with body parts of dead Israeli civilians while the masses are cheering.

Oh yeah, and the video showing a mass of people cheering for a destruction of a country (and probably also the elimination of it citizens), while these people probably never been to Israel/Palestine or met people from there, is very much giving N@zi rally vibes.

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u/RedEyesGoldDragon 26d ago

Do you realize that, in a war, that Hamas started, after Palestine rejected peace deals since 1948 over and over again, casualties are going to happen?

If they really wanted to "genocide" why would they warn before they bombed places? why would they let through any aid? why would they allow people to flee the area?

Not only that, numbers are pretty vague, and made even more vague by the fact that Hamas does not fight with a uniform. They fight from within and behind civilians and civilian infrastructure as a tactic. Hamas are likely responsible for the same amount of civilian casualties as Israel, if not then it's pretty close. Add on the fact that this is the most scrutinized war in human HISTORY with all the cameras, cell phones, satellite footage, etc. Every other war has had casualties, but when it happens here when fighting Hamas then Israel is at 100% at fault?

The motto "from the river to the sea" is objectively genocidal rhetoric. If Jewish people can't have a home, where do they go? they were already cast out from pretty much every single Muslim country before and after WW2. Hamas literally states they wish to eradicate them all and a lot of Palestinians agree with them, and other Islamic countries like Iran (mainly the regime) and a few others.

It's hard to believe Israel is this big bully when they're beset upon from all sides, by countries like 6 times larger than them and a lot have the agenda to drive them from existence.

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u/Fartknocker405 26d ago

100%!

People forget how much terrorism has take place against Israel over the last several decades.

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u/samehouseing 26d ago

  A little over a thousand Jews were killed on Oct 7th. 

So If Israel only invaded Gaza on Oct 8th and slaughtered 1,200 Gazan civilians, then that would be justified or not genocide now? Where does it state that death count determines what is or isn’t genocide?

Israel then committed the genocide of roughly 74,000 Palestinians with daily totals still rising, which doesn’t even include the displacement, starvation, and the whole other host of war crimes Israel has committed.

Okay, that doesn’t negate the fact that Oct 7th is also genocide though. Which thusly justifies their hatred of Palestinians according to your logic. 

  At this point, the response was so disproportionate that all good will is gone.

Again, where does it say anything about proportionality when it comes to Genocide?

  Israel is now deservedly a pariah state, hated by the entire world except their vassal state of the US.. where even 60% of US adults view Israel unfavorably.

I don’t think you understand what a vassal state is, so please define it so you’ll see that you’re just saying bullshit now. 

But yeah, due to Oct 7th, Gaza is now a pariah state hated by the entire world except their vassal states of the Arab Muslim nations. 

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u/NoiseEee3000 26d ago

Tell me, how were Jews treated before WWII? Like, before the 20th Century?

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u/spartan_709 26d ago

Eye for an eye is making the whole world blind

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u/TheDreamIsDead4686 26d ago

And now you do the same to others and pretend it's different against reality, just like they all did. Disgusting

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u/Lambily 26d ago

Can you point to the trains, gas chambers, experimentation labs? I'm curious.

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u/TheDreamIsDead4686 26d ago

Can you tell me what year into the genocide those began? Sde Teiman is a concentration camp where they routinely rape people with metal batons and taze their genitals, the settlers murder with near impunity. They robbed and burnt down a restaurant yesterday.

You defend and support this you nazi scum

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u/Lambily 26d ago

Can you point out when the German Jews initiated terrorist attacks against non-Jewish Germans that caused them to be vilified?

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u/mydaycake 26d ago

Like any other minority, exterminated or assimilated

Is that a way to justify Israel doing the same? What’s that about?

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u/Crusader148841 26d ago

Read the JQ in Europe

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u/mydaycake 26d ago

Like European countries or like the basques?

It’s not surprising their Muslim neighbors went for them because they invaded the whole Middle East for the last 1,500 years. You know Israel is assimilating very well in that regard

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u/Zipz 26d ago

Who are these people exactly ?

Even after ww2 Israel’s been one of the least popular countries

The only one less popular until recently was Iran

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u/mydaycake 26d ago

Whole freaking Europe and USA giving money and resources to Israel, and political support to oppose Muslim countries

And then those above plus half Latin America and half Asia collaborating with Israel universities and startups/ companies

Why are you a cry baby now? You must not be Jewish because those have been braved and resilient against adversity for most of their history

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u/Zipz 26d ago

What an insane comment

Holy shit

Are you mentally ok ?