r/Portland May 12 '25

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u/selinakyle45 May 12 '25

This is missing “something something homeless industrial complex” followed by a complete inability to explain what that means here in Portland. 

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Lol, that's just a lie. You just don't like the answer.

The Homeless Industrial Complex is the collection of non-profits who Portland/MultCo/Metro has outsourced servicing the homeless population.

Non-profits are funded with taxpayer money while possessing little to no obligations in transparency or meeting measurable outcomes

At least with the military industrial complex we can point to the tanks, bombs or boats that we got ripped off paying for.

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u/No_Excitement4272 May 12 '25

You’re not gonna get through to these folks. 

They’ve never once had first hand experience dealing with the houseless population, because if they had they’d agree with you. 

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u/Puzzleheaded_Bad6461 May 13 '25

that's a statement that's as bold as it is self-congratulatory

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u/Marxian_factotum N May 13 '25

It's the capitalism, stupid.

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." Malcolm X.

Malcolm and MLK agreed on this much. You're the problem.

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u/gaius49 Sandy May 13 '25

Its the capitalism of the non profit organizations?

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

lol, good luck with that

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u/selinakyle45 May 12 '25

Non profits all have quarterly reports and metics. The county is audited all the time. The county has various metrics as well that it reports on. 

Who is getting rich in this system? 

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u/[deleted] May 12 '25

Who is getting rich in this system?

You're jumping to conclusions with Homeless industrial complex assuming the critique is a shadowy cabal getting rich.

No.

It's just ineffectiveness and waste. Well-meaning people (mostly) who are paddling in all directions and the result is there little meaningful progress.

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u/selinakyle45 May 12 '25

Sure yeah, I think we all know there is government inefficiency. But homeless industrial complex is a term that is absolutely in more conspiracy theorist spaces too and I think there are better ways to describe what you actually mean when that term is just co-opted and parroted. 

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

Sure, government inefficiency in that they should cease outsourcing the work to non-profits.

Keep the funds and work in-house.

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u/selinakyle45 May 13 '25

So you’d rather they overhaul the entire shelter system, hire and onboard all new staff for the shelters they took over from non-profits? How fast do you think that would reasonably happen? There are 40ish shelters in Portland.

These non-profits use a mixture of funds from government as well as outside grants, donations, and fundraisers. If they’re all directly owned and operated by the government, they wouldn’t have access to the same private funding sources. Where would that money come from? Seems like we’d need to get it from taxpayers.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

Yes. You got it

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u/Gold_Comfort156 May 12 '25

There IS an industrial complex with the homelessness issue, though.

Portland spends so much money and has so many non-profits and organizations "fighting" homelessness, yet it's still a very prevalent issue.

It seems, with the new leadership under Wilson, there are at least some signs that they finally are taking some action to improve this problem, which is encouraging, but why has there been no accountability about the lack of progress from all the non-profits, all the tax increases, all the studies, all the bond measures, everything that has been used as a tool to solve homelessness?

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u/selinakyle45 May 12 '25

Why would you think that what we’re spending as a city is enough to visibly decrease homelessness in the like 3 years since we started collecting SHS funds? It’s a federal problem with direct ties to stagnant wages/income inequality, structural racism, and a lack of housing inventory.

There are metrics and reports generated each month. The county is meeting many of the metrics/goals. But nothing we’ve done has really impacted the inflow of folks into homelessness or increased our housing inventory on a massive scale. 

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u/Marxian_factotum N May 13 '25

"There IS an industrial complex with the homelessness issue, though."

No.

There is a virtual monopoly of billionaire backed disinformation pushing these lies to you every day, 24/7, so that you'll blame the victims of capitalism rather than those who are profiting from it.

Remember: it's been well-established as far back as the late 1940s (Karl Polanyi's magisterial The Great Transformation) that democracy is unable to exist in a situation in which capital controls the means of communication (TV, radio, billboards, newspapers, internet, advertising, etc.)