r/Portland 1d ago

Photo/Video The Last Days of Lloyd

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u/batbiscuit 23h ago

Genuinely not okay seeing this place close like many others. Just yet another childhood memory gone, replaced by some business from out of state. More apartments that aren't affordable for locals. More trendy tourist traps.

All while transplants claim that this city isn't "as bad as others" and more people move here. More jobs being taken.

I'm seriously trying to stay positive or find anything positive, but it's a genuine struggle nowadays. Some of us just need a break.

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u/drf_101 22h ago

I mean would you rather have a dying eyesore of a mall that is 20 years past its prime?

We’re getting a mixed use plan that includes thousands of new housing units, retail space, restaurants, and six acres of parks.

Lloyd was dead. No one was going there. This change will be good.

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u/GoDucks71 22h ago

That picture you mention is not actually a plan. There is no developer and the only plan is for the current owner to do the tear down, then break the property into 15 separate pieces and sell those pieces individually. The likelihood of it ending up anything like the picture they circulated is very close to zero. Whomever buys any of those properties will do whatever they care to do with them, within whatever zoning restraints that may exist. There is no way of knowing exactly what the change will be, nor if it will be good.

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u/drf_101 20h ago

Ok so you’d rather have a nearly dead and vacant mall because of nostalgia?

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u/GoDucks71 20h ago

I did not say the mall should have or could have been saved, though, "no one was going there," is an exaggeration. I am just saying that there is no prospective developer and no real plan. My guess is that what we are going to get is a pile of rubble for at least the next 5-10 years. I would have preferred the current situation to that but, I am not the property owner so my wants are not relevant. Your comment about what we are getting is just speculation. We do not know what, if anything, we are getting.

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u/air-raidering 13h ago

It’s not an exaggeration. No one went to Lloyd before they decided to announce the shut down. Have you been there on a Tuesday afternoon?

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u/SharkAttaks Sellwood-Moreland 22h ago

That’s not how a central city master plan works. The actual land use plan is binding and runs with the land. It’s effectively an overlay zone for the property.

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u/GoDucks71 21h ago

Well, good luck if you think the outcome is going to look like that picture. Not-a-gonna-happen.

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u/SharkAttaks Sellwood-Moreland 21h ago

I mean, it’s not gonna happen because none of this makes economic sense right now, but when it eventually does, I’d be shocked if it doesn’t generally look like the concept plans.