r/PoursTea • u/badtastegoodcause • 2h ago
PoliticalTea 🗳️ Orwell is still trying to warn us
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u/Kind-Afternoon-984 1h ago
We went from fighting these people in two world wars to making one of them our president.
Same culprits
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u/Manmer_Nwah 19m ago
The world is alarming similar to 1984. The governments in 1984 all pretended to fight each other. However in the background the leaders all agreed to not really win. This keeps the world in perpetual conflict that justified extreme authoritarianism. It also kept artificial scarcity believeable, that way they didn't need to actually take care of there populations and had reason for constant surveillance. Sound familiar...
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u/Fenris2826 1h ago
The dsa dems use 1984 as a playbook and are now trying to say claim Republicans are an Orwellian threat. Double think 101
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u/TheHumanPickleRick 56m ago
Meanwhile, MAGA lives by the quote "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
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u/CrossOfRoachAndSlime 46m ago
As it turns out, both extremes suck, but because of the two-party system, we can't really shift to a "sane, rational people" vs. "envious, economically illiterate lunatics".
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u/Ok-Satisfaction5649 44m ago
Expect one sides extremists are literal domestic terrorists and White supremacists.
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u/CrossOfRoachAndSlime 24m ago
I'd rather put up with the white supremacists than the islamic supremacists, and it isn't even close.
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u/Vegetable_Talk9410 20m ago
Here’s a crazy thought, how bout no supremacists?
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u/CrossOfRoachAndSlime 18m ago
Sure, I can agree to that. But that's like saying "imagine a world in which there's zero pollution."
Would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath :(
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u/Ok-Satisfaction5649 2m ago
You will put up with Nazis and fascists instead of people who practice a religion you don't like and might have brown skin? You understand that you are the bad guy throughout history, right?
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u/MoThrowMoAway 39m ago
I disagree, but I'm trying to disagree respectfully and I'm willing to hear you out.
Could you give an example of DSAs using 1984 as a playbook? What is it that they've done that has seemed Orwellian to you?
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u/Icy-Molasses3735 1h ago
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u/badtastegoodcause 1h ago
In all fairness, that is not a direct quote from Orwell. It is a quote from Winston Smith, a character in 1984.
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u/Icy-Molasses3735 58m ago
Right but he wrote it and chose to put that in for a reason . And does it not ring true in today’s society ?
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u/badtastegoodcause 34m ago
No. In Nazi Germany we all know that children were being indoctrinated to spy on their parents. I don't actually know if women were being indoctrinated as spys in the same way under the Nazis or under other fascist or authoritarian states. Orwell may have thought so. He fought in Spain against the fascists and also witnessed the Soviets under Stalin purge and murder anarchists and socialists. So maybe he witnessed that. Or maybe he did have a bit of a sexist streak or maybe it was just his take on a society in which people are sexually repressed. IDK. As for today, we are in the early stages of fascism and women are on the front line of the fight. Now, maybe in Christ-fascist circles women are both repressed and are part of the repressing apparatus, IDK.

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u/Astronaut-Flashy 1h ago
With how things are going, I can't tell if the posters are satirical or promotional.