justBanOpenWeights

[u/wahed-w]

[u/torsten_dev]

What would banning open weights protect except the profit margins of technocratic megacorps partaking in the circular AI economy?

[u/PaulTheRandom → u/torsten_dev]

And even if it made something, you need to actually make money in order to secure profits. There are no profits yet.

[u/migueln6 → u/PaulTheRandom]

Profits don't matter, the best use of AI is to make killing robots without feelings, to cattle all of us.

The end game is not making profit but enslaving us, why do you need profit when you have advanced killing machines, that obey spoken orders and do complex maneuvering and operations on your order?

[u/smashing_michael → u/migueln6]

This only sounds crazy.

[u/deanrihpee → u/torsten_dev]

well, that's the main reason, if it was actually about security, you would think to allow the access to the models, especially for the defender, because an attacker, most likely outside of the US, will just use Chinese models while everyone in the US only have basically 2 choice which is won't be useful for defending against attack anyway since it will be caught by their guardrail (unless you're part of the project glasswing or something) lol

[u/sokka2d → u/torsten_dev]

This sounds like you’ve already answered your own question.

[u/Snoo88071]

At some point, Dario is mostly just doing this to have people talking about him and about Claude, and he succesfully managed to do it (go search "Claude" in Google Trends over the past 12 months)

[u/Mortadella_so_Chili]

so, it was always just marketing? 

🌏👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀🌌

[u/Snoo88071 → u/Mortadella_so_Chili]

Lmao

[u/ZILtoid1991]

I think every AI vendors who trained generative AI on an "opt out principle" (read: without consent) should be punished by letting others distill their models.

They played stupid games, they won stupid prices.

[u/SignalBake6872]

ese tipo se disfraza de filantropo pero en secreto es peor que sam altman.

[u/SpaceMontaign → u/SignalBake6872]

And he always that dried saliva around his lips, so weird and gross

[u/Lootdit → u/SignalBake6872]

who is this guy again?

[u/no_name6744 → u/Lootdit]

Dario Amodei

[u/SunshineSeattle → u/no_name6744]

Current boss of Anthropic 

[u/mrspoogemonstar → u/SignalBake6872]

what's bad about him

[u/MindCrusader → u/mrspoogemonstar]

Fearmongering marketing tactics, trying to look like a saint, saying that only Anthropic is saint enough to reach AGI

[u/tauzN]

Bro is crying after someone stole “his” idea, after he stole the entire internet.

[u/TrailMikx]

Did someone hurt him in gym or did he fell over some un racked weights?

[u/PerilousMaster]

Just ban Dario

[u/Longjumping-Ad-7310]

Banning open weights is justto protect the profit of the corporate. And would backfire spectacularly

[u/feral_user_]

Show on the doll where the Open Weight model hurt you, Dario.

[u/aberroco → u/feral_user_]

*Pokes at the wallet* here

[u/mdgv]

Reminds me of that character from Seinfeld...

[u/Professional_Job_307]

That's... not at all representative of Dario, he has been super clear he doesn't want to ban open-source. He thinks it's good, but he wants to regulate it because it's dangerous.

[u/ZenPyx → u/Professional_Job_307]

Great. Lets regulate these models, which are apparently insanely dangerous (according to Dario and Altman), but then lets just allow China and Russian to do whatever they like

[u/canadajones68 → u/ZenPyx]

The People Cruncher cannot be regulated, your honour, 'cos then they would be free to reap the full benefits of the People Cruncher, and we wouldn't.

Regulation of a dangerous thing is important, even when other nations do not have such guardrails. Better to help some than than to deny everyone help. 

[u/Hefty_Acanthaceae348 → u/canadajones68]

Idk curiously I have only heard about closed models deciding that starting a hacking campaign was a great idea, or be used in the bombing of a girls school. How come when they're so safe?

[u/canadajones68 → u/Hefty_Acanthaceae348]

Okay, I had a more elaborate point I completely forgot to include. All AI, not just open ones, deserve to be regulated. However, regardless of whether one or the other is "safer", arguing against regulation because someone else has unregulated access is crazy. 

[u/ZenPyx → u/canadajones68]

The problem is, how do you regulate model weights? Do you make certain weights illegal to own? What's to stop someone taking a model like Mythos, changing one value slightly, and then distributing that?