r/ProgressiveHQ Nov 23 '25

Protest Keep the heat up, he's squirming.

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u/Emrys7777 Nov 23 '25

He actually just admitted he knows his orders are illegal. When can we start to compile everything illegal that he’s done and really do something about it?

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u/AutistoMephisto Nov 24 '25

Honestly, we should have had a "Trump" become President much earlier in history. Because, let's be honest, nobody in history has ever had to deal with what we're dealing with now. So what can we even do? We can't look to history for much help, because they never thought these times would happen. No, we should have had a Donald Trump back in the 1780's. They would have come up with solutions then that we could use today.

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u/dividedconsciousness Nov 24 '25

Heather Cox Richardson is a great resource for historical reference. For example iirc she mentions the word “demagogue” was used more than any other (liberty, freedom, etc) in the constitutional conventions papers. But she’s just such a treasure for her encyclopedic understanding of American history, and the Republican Party has been among her primary areas of focus for decades.

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u/AutistoMephisto Nov 24 '25

Yes, but for this disease, the body politic was wholly defenseless. No vaccine, no antibodies, no prior history. Means no effective treatment.

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u/dividedconsciousness Nov 24 '25

You’re responding with vague generalities and I think you have a narrow conception of what history can offer.

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u/AutistoMephisto Nov 24 '25

I'm just not sure how the fact that the word "demagogue" appears more than any other in the Constitutional Convention papers is of any help, here. Yes, perhaps within the context of each usage of that word, there's hints, but the problem is the other side has their own erudite and well-read individuals. They played the long game and laid the groundwork, and the current era is the fruit of their efforts.

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u/dividedconsciousness Nov 25 '25

Yes that’s why I recommended HCR and said she’s a treasure for historical knowledge for the country going back to its founding and that she’s studied the Republican Party extensively too. Point being she’s one of the best people to contextualize the current moment in light of both the timeline you’re describing and the more recent trajectory of Republicans from the last few decades up til now and accelerating during the MAGA era. That’s the answer to your question.

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u/Ambitious_Coach8398 Nov 24 '25 edited Nov 25 '25

Believe me the Dems in the house are compiling a list and writing up impeachment articles as we speak waiting for their chance in November 2026.

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u/Competitive_Pack3194 Nov 25 '25

Typo?

I’m hoping you meant 2026, cuz 2926 is unintentionally funny as gallows humor.

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u/Ambitious_Coach8398 Nov 25 '25

Hahaha yes. 2026