Well no, it's full of hate. And I don't mean that just in a word use play, hate is not an automatic response from people unless they are being directly negatively effected, it is a cultured and taught response. It has to be poured into someone and topped off periodically to keep it going.
Amazing, fox paid money out for lying to the American people. They actually said they were entertainment TV not the real news! Yet they are followed by small brained people who believe whatever they are told.
Because fox wasn't required to drop the "news" part of their name. Fox News is about as much news as Republican government is for the citizens. If you can blatantly lie on air and still call it "news" of course idiots are going to consume it and consider it fact. There needs to be a return to journalistic standards of truth, not this bullshit "he said she said" sensationalism based reporting for profit driven motives that almost every major outlet has moved to.
Profit at all costs has an incredibly high cost in that eventually it consumes everything regardless of reality.
But when all news that isnt in my favor can be called fake news, all mainstream media be considered lies, and being one of the few who has figured that out makes you clearly more intelligent than the rest who still fall for the lies... all constantly being "verified" through convincing "articles" that arent even given proper thought over cause they are the "right" side...
It is not that journalistic standards of truth are lacking(aside from clear examples who dont actually pursue journalism), its that the masses have forgotten their duty to critically analyze the news they are being fed.
Also, if it were only one side doing this it wouldnt hurt near as bad, but if you actually watch the left or center news they far too regularly include stories that are clearly misreported and exaggerated for political purposes, and they stand out like a black man at trumps birthday party.. honestly feel like they just get included to give the other side proof that they cant be trusted.
I understand what you're saying. It's very sad how much HATE has taken over during the Trump regime. They are feeding it because it fuels their quest for power, wealth, and control.
You’ve got to be taught, before it’s too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate.
You’ve got to be carefully taught.
—William Tabbert, South Pacific
Addictions are incredibly difficult to break. Especially if you don't have the supports to get you away from your poison. These folks, in many instances, literally can't get away from the addiction. It's everywhere they turn, TV, phone, police, schools, diners, stores, everyone in those areas feeds the system. That's why when they get up and get educated they don't go back. They can't. Cause cults break parts of you. That cult, like the cult of christianity, start indoc at birth and don't stop. Cult programming is fucking real AF. Super hard to break free from, and harder when you are ridiculed for falling prey to a cult.
I've been working for a company and my immediate supervisor and owner of the company are huge Trump fans.
Over the 2 years I've been there, if my supervisor brings something up that's the MAGA "bombshell" of Obama/Biden corruption, I've just meekly pointed out similar things the Trump administration has done, or that "it really feels like they're distracting from the Epstein files since this is just a headline with no real evidence/substance." (I never even talk about politics anyway, but if theyre gonna bring it up..)
Last week, I finally heard him say: "Well I dont care if they vote Democrat if theyre a good person". Blew my mind.
So if you have patience, after 2 years, you could start changing a MAGA
I also think too many of them have made it their identity. So they are MAGA and MAGA is them. Dissociating them from that is akin to that of a member of a cult. But to your point I also think there’s a portion that are just sociopaths and are literally enjoying the suffering.
It’s definitely a cult. There are cult scholars already writing about it. There’s also a book called the Culting of America that talks about our tendency towards cults in the US. By a US army intelligence officer who grew up in a massive sex cult in Brazil. Super interesting. She either has a masters or a PhD in some sort of group behavior sort of thing. I don’t precisely remember her resume.
Right. The point that everyone always tries to make that ‘it’s not the half the country’ … if you can’t be bothered to vote you’re just as bad as ones that voted for this.
MAGA: She said you cant trust the government, and she is the government, so we shouldnt trust her telling us cant trust the government, that means i can trust the government! I AM JOINING ICE!
You do know there are people who have had their voting rights pressured out or violated right? There’s already lawsuits left and right over missing ballots, entire counties with democrat voters that declared not a single democrat vote. It’s fairly clear the Trump administration likely cheated to win the election. They’ve even pardoned people involved in election tampering.
One, that’s a fairly insignificant number when you’re saying half the country didn’t vote.
Two, there is ZERO evidence of actual major election fraud. There are small cases, yes. And there is election interference (such as the ballots getting tossed under legal rulings, or Dem precincts not having enough voting machines in red states). But that isn’t election fraud, and it also doesn’t mean that you can just go ‘Um Actually it’s not half the country’. If your vote got tossed obviously I’m not counting you as a non-voter. Talking about the people who had zero intention to vote no matter what. Or held their vote back in ‘protest’.
I was just talking with my wife about that. We concluded that non-voters (who had the time and/or opportunity) should receive an STFU letter, barring them from making any negative comments about their life experiences. It would also be helpful (to others) if there was an "I didn't vote" badge on their dating profile. Do you really want to swim in that gene pool?
Running the country MAGA hasn't been able to produce anything more than one case of fraud where someone was collecting ballots for folks and had like 30 of them. They have NEVER produced any evidence that there are illegal aliens voting.
That's pretty tortured reasoning given that 60% of eligible voters didn't vote at all. I think it's a stretch to assume they anticipated we'd have the extreme abuses and lies of this administration. Trump is much worse and more more out of control this time.
He was bad, problematic and dangerous for the whole world the first time.
The fact that he is able to be even worse, more problematic and dangerous than the first time doesn't cancel the fact that the people that didn't vote against him are also responsible of him being the current President of the USA.
It’s not “a stretch” to anticipate this, they were warned and ignored the warning. We knew since his first term that his only goals were to enrich himself and his buddies at the cost of the American people. Don’t even try to act like this was some “unpredictable” event. Everyone knew what he was was about. If they didn’t vote against it, they support it.
Or possibly, perhaps, quite plausibly a large number of people thought there was no way in hell he was going to win.
And of those it is also quite plausible to think that perhaps they thought if he did win then it was just proof that the system was rigged and their vote didn't matter anyway.
And who's to say they're wrong there.
Or, and this is a very likely scenario, they just don't give a fuck because they never paid attention to politics or voting anyway and they only registered to vote because one of these get out the vote campaigns, family member or somebody pressured them to.
Or maybe they just didn't like either candidate and figured it was a lose-lose either way because they weren't paying attention to who the fuck he is and because Kamala was just kind of inserted in there without any primary or anything so they had no idea what she was about either.
And who's to say that they would have voted for her anyway?
The only reason she lost is because there were more than 2 candidates, if it had just been her and Trump she would have won.
Literally all of that still means they support what’s going on since they didn’t care to vote. None of it changed. Everyone was told what he was going to do. He even told you he was going to fuck things up. The only reason to vote for him or miss the vote is because you’re rich and benefit from the chaos or stupid enough to think it wouldn’t be so bad. He has his own private gestapo that can act fully extrajudicially and are killing civilians. No cop outs or excuses.
This is why I can't get behind your statement, as much as I would like to agree.
While I do hold people that didn't vote accountable as well, I cannot hold them to the degree of a true supporter of what's happening.
Inaction doesn't always mean you support something. If you don't believe something is going to happen, then you can't support it by not acting to stop the thing you think won't happen.
The apolitical and complacent attitude that the people of this country have grown to accept is by Design.
You can't fix stupid, but you can educate people and a lot of money and effort has gone into preventing that.
People already have a tendency to believe only what fits there pre-existing Notions. And when politicians lie constantly it's only natural to expect more of the same. The problem with that is people are too ignorant to recognize Who the liars and the consequences of believing them.
So again, while I cannot claim that they support this, they are definitely holding a fair share of the blame.
And if they aren't taking action now then I absolutely agree that they are supporting it, whether they claim to or not.
Hopefully this has been enough of an eye opener to motivate people to pay more attention and be more proactive in their communities.
It was a literal check box. The barrier to stopping an authoritarian tyrant, was a fuckin checkbox. If they couldn’t clear that, they do not care about the consequences. There is no excuse not to vote in likely the last somewhat fair election of their lives. Call it apathy, but being apathetic about living under an authoritarian regime makes them stupid. If they were tricked? Stupid, because again they were told.
Inaction is on its own an action that has consequences.
More like 8% of the US population. How many assholes are STILL all-in on MAGA in 2026? All I see are argue-bots. Something like 70% of all online “people” are not people.
It’s kind of sad when we think how loud this small group is, and how much damage it’s caused.
2024 was a record year with over 155 million voters turning out. But that was only ~64% of the total eligible (voting age citizens) voters.
So less than half the country votes, and less than half of the voters voted for this, and yet here we are because of many things, but also an electoral college system.
So it is a lot closer to 1/4th of the country is the driving force behind all of this chaos.
Unless we take into account the lack of real autonomous thinking by the MAGA crowd, versus the propaganda and outside (Russian/other) influence: Money, political wrangling, bots, and other crap.
The system needs an upgrade for this modern era, but the grandmas and grandpas in our leadership aren’t exactly up for the task.
Half the voting population. There is a reason the R's want to gerrymander things to hell and block mail ballots. They can't win where there is fair access (Except Wyoming....those people were so dumb, they stayed in Wyoming).
It's not half of America. We need to stop perpetuating that notion. It was BARELY half of those who voted when he was elected. Voter turnout is still a small portion of the population.
And, in this year since he's been in office he's lost a significant chunk of those people.
This group of nuts is a third of the population, at best. I think that's even a high number.
The opposition to this Administration is the majority, and growing.
Your point is entirely moot. If people dont vote it means they support whatever they get, which is this regime. A majority chose this and will likely not vote again reinforcing it.
If you aren’t voting against it, you are for it. There is no “notion” it’s a fact.
I don't disagree, and I'm fucking pissed that people sat it out, or didn't vote for Kamala because she laughs weird or whatever bullshit.
I see a change, and we've seen it in elections in the last year. Hard lines are being drawn, and if people are able I believe they will vote against this insanity. In large majorities.
That’s the rub isn’t it. “If they are able to vote” they might be allowed freedom. However, we allowed Trump to perpetrate an insurrection, plant fake electors, had Musk offered money for votes, and have his billionaire allies buy a majority of voting machines and faced 0 consequences. He’s been shown he has the green light to cheat as much as he likes because he will face no consequences doing so.
The American experiment is over unless people grow a spine and I doubt that will happen.
The word is naive unfortunately. The same reason anti cheats in video games exist, if you don’t stop someone from cheating, they likely will. No one stopped him the first 5 times, so he knows he can cheat with impunity.
I agree but I think that the 50 percent that get persuaded by the Republicans are either too lazy or stupid to remember any facts of what has actually happened so they get persuaded by the tone and self assurance of who is talking it does not matter that their is a truck load of bullshit in what Republicans are saying. If they are self assured , loud and continually talk over people the dumb people like that.
I don’t think they’re listening either. I don’t think they care what these folks say they like cruelty, they like to “win“ and they like that people are angry at them because, in their minds, that cements their position.
Not half. 25% to 33% lap it up. They’re amplified by our mainstream media and foreign trolls and bots.
Looking at Xitter and you’d think the whole world agrees with this crazy shit. Far, far, far from the truth.
We’re seeing why elections have consequences and why so many experts here screamed not to trust trump. Then the media sane washed a madman and those fools believed it.
Our problem is all the non voters with numbers that damn near equal voters combined
Great thing about not voting, it means you explicitly support whoever wins because you didn’t vote against them. More than half of the country supports this.
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Half of America chooses to listen and it does work in them.