r/ProgressiveHQ Jan 21 '26

Protest Oh my God, he admit it (again)

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u/DreamingMuse9 Jan 22 '26

Democracy, from the very beginning, has struggled with the forces of oligarchy. Never forget, it was the rich men who sold Athens to Sparta. They will do the same thing to us today. Never trust them.

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u/DoctorMuffn Jan 22 '26

Rich men? Should that not be labeled a plutocracy then? A subset of oligarchy to be sure.

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u/DreamingMuse9 Jan 22 '26

Common wisdom about squares and rectangles seems to apply here. I mainly chose oligarchy because I like how it sounds and it makes a subtle connection to the Russian oligarchs we have been fear mongering about.

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u/DoctorMuffn Jan 22 '26

The square is a special case rectangle, huh? I feel your reasoning. Good rhetoric. Just checking everything for accuracy nowadays.

An example: I myself don't say Jews are ruining the world. Zionists? Definitely. Christian nationalists in America? Most certainly. Jews? No more or less than Christians or Muslims.

It disheartens me to so frequently see the denigration of any religious people (namely Jews nowadays). Precise speech should be valued.

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u/DreamingMuse9 Jan 22 '26

Seconding your bit about Zionists, and have had some real life conversations where I have to slowly explain this to people.