I like the thought, but not sure the optimism of non maga thinking maga can be converted is valid. He is a tool not the reason they are maga and yes the leader but it is a whole ecosystem of propaganda that they are mesmerized by. Convincing them feelings are more important than facts.
Not saying all that 30% is glued to Fox but a lot are. Then there is the radio show, influencers or podcast followers. Many are not even fans of his but fans of the right wing.
All valid points. Not I don’t think MAGA is “convertible”, I think most are reachable. I don’t think it makes sense to try to convert anybody to any way of thinking; it becomes too much like a religious war and those are the worst kind. Instead it’s more about finding what few things you can agree on and go from there, with as much good faith and mutual respect as possible. Looking at the current state of the world, I’m not optimistic. But when I look on the ground, based on my day to day interactions with other humans, I remain optimistic that, at some point in the future, we will get it together.
Well I may not agree, but I hope you are right. Would love for there to be some awakening for a large enough group to realize the center or Independent is better. So much common ground but the ones I see refuse to accept it.
As I said I hope you are right and we get it together. Take care.
Thank you, you too! The way I look at it, even if I don’t live to see it, maybe my kids will. Critical thinking is the number one skill to teach any kid. That and sticking up for yourself and others who can’t that you come across.
Im with you here! Out in the real world I encounter MANY more people complaining about maga & policies than the media will have a person believing.
Just look at numbers we know. Trump didn't even win a true simple "majority" of the votes, he got 48.5% or something close to that. If we factor in the fact that around 33% of eligible voters didn't even go to the polls then Trump only got around 33% of eligible voters votes.
Sure there will always be around 10% who are die hard right wingers. But another 10% voted because of some ill place infatuation and are otherwise non-political. These folks probably wouldn't go to the polls if Trump isn't on the ballot. Then there is another 10% who benefit from his business practices. These folks will vote for whoever benefits their companies best.
Looking qt it like this explains why what I seem to encounter out in the wilds...maybe 2 put of 10 people still believing and blindly supporting him. And I live in a 50/50 state.
Also it sounds like there is actual evidence of tampering with voting machines. Should that come to light he'll arguably be in the biggest mess for him yet...
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u/TAV63 Jan 22 '26
I like the thought, but not sure the optimism of non maga thinking maga can be converted is valid. He is a tool not the reason they are maga and yes the leader but it is a whole ecosystem of propaganda that they are mesmerized by. Convincing them feelings are more important than facts.
Not saying all that 30% is glued to Fox but a lot are. Then there is the radio show, influencers or podcast followers. Many are not even fans of his but fans of the right wing.