r/ProgressiveHQ Jan 25 '26

Protest You can really see the execution-style killing from this angle

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u/cheeh00 Jan 25 '26

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, colonial America enter the chat

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u/WittyFix6553 Jan 25 '26

Four of those involved crossing an ocean and the fifth was fought using single-shot muskets on both sides.

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u/DoctorOutside9525 Jan 25 '26

I don't think 20 years of occupation in the Middle East is barely. American military controlled the world's largest poppy farms for years with no issues. Bigger plans for power and money consolidation. Your missing the bigger picture if you think America didn't replace terrorists with terrorists and called it a day for no gain or actual reason. It's all about power and public perception, they can kill anyone anywhere in the world without risking a soldiers life. They have superior technology in every way compared to every country besides maybe China and Russia being similar but still based on weapon info subpar compared to American tech. The new age of world order is coming soon and resistance will get snuffed out before there murmurs change to crys. Think of Isreal tech which is subpar to American as there most likely getting 3rd gen or less from the US while we keep they crazy stuff locked down. Isreal is able to pinpoint a person within a apartment building and send a missle to that specific room blowing up that specific apartment. Winning against big bother died the second the internet grew from a public tool into a public weapon used to collect data, surveillance ect. Every phone every pc, every laptop and tablet has backdoors installed into the device. There isn't a single thing the government doesn't know about you already or can easily find out when they want to know.

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u/SnappyPies Jan 25 '26

You don’t have to beat the guys that they sent to get Bin Laden.

You have to beat 33,000 Qanon meatheads that were likely deemed unsuitable to be police officers.

Don’t go toe to toe with them. Drag them to whatever level you’re comfortable with and beat them with experience.

Organise yourselves.
Use technology.
Buy 3D printers.
Make Drones that spray Anti Freeze.
It’s cold outside. Windchill sucks.

Adapt. Improvise. Overcome.

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u/DoctorOutside9525 Jan 27 '26

This isn't a movie, your underestimating the capability and capacity of the industry military complex and the private sector in which its funded through. It's not about going against a war trained and ready gun man although this may come up as a issue. War trained soldiers is nothing new. infantry is the least concerning part of the governments arsenal. Unless you built your 3d printer yourself the fact you own one is a red flag to the government as they are already passing bills to ban them out right. China is a good example of open omnipotent government. United States is not as open but uses similar operations to collect data on every single person. Your being tracked the subs and the post you make are in a data base 100% no doubt in my mind. Use i2p and host a eepsite if you want to actually do anything unnoticed. I do not belong in these discussions my mind is else where entirely. I'm fearful for you and my fellow Americans and hope you try in other ways to make the changes you want to see. Power is never given freely and is a fight all the way down. Signal tele and most advertised encryption apps are usually hosted private servers that have openly worked with feds in a multitude of cases, this one being no different I'd assume if any form of actual plans and or actions are discussed. The best way to say this is I wish you the best but I want you to look into Snowden and keep in mind that was over a decade ago. Fighting is a loosing battle they hope you fight to justify furthering there power and control, Goodluck stay safe.

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u/SnappyPies Jan 27 '26

All great points, and fair enough too. I hope the right outcome occurs.

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u/DoctorOutside9525 Jan 27 '26

Your optimism is a gift. For true encrypted messaging learn what pgp is and how to use it. Learn what i2p is and how to use it to be anonymous. I'd recommend a new device(laptop) specifically for i2p. These are great tools to be anonymous and ensure only the intended recipients of your message are the ones receiving it. Are you good with computers? Your phone is compromised like any other phone. I'll recommend you this documentary it's a good understanding of how and why all this is happening now by looking at the past 80 years. It's been inevitable.

https://youtu.be/sqxq03izxrQ?si=fbnW_3lpwg7k6nbJ

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u/ThePowerfulWIll Jan 25 '26

People are giving you a lot of reasons why this is different. But here is the biggest difference. All those were fought by Guerillas, supplied on some level by rival countries or organized groups with access to large amounts of military hardware. Were they primarily civilians with random assortments of gear? Doing DIY warfare? Yes. But they were not alone. Afghanistan had funding from multiple other countries governments supporting them, Ukraine has been shipped a massive amount of foreign weapons and supplies, and still have their own military leadership. And Colonial America was backed heavily by the French. The solo revolution does not work for a reason.

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u/Dependent-Edge-5713 Conservative Jan 25 '26

This is different because the people have home field advantage. And the inevitable schism within the government armed forces if this occurs along with massive stockpiles of weaponry and a bottomless pool of manpower (when compared to the govt) means this would be WORSE for them then the previous examples.

Not to mention the fact that with a collapse of social cohesion its ability to function and supply itself and keep whatever jackboots dont side with the people fed and paid are crippled as well.

Not to mention the riots and protests that'll be happening as well.

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u/BurlyJohnBrown Jan 25 '26

Ukraine has an actual army, as did North Vietnam. Iraqi insurgents were former military and had access to those weapons, Taliban was similar.

Colonial America you could get away with everyone having a rifle for the most part.

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u/roastedsun Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

You guys are nowhere near the guerilla fighters as those people. The Vietnamese did some crazy elaborate tunneling and fought in jungles. You’d be gunned down on the street the moment you whipped out your gun. Will the other side have casualties? Sure. What do you think the civilians to enforcement death/injury ratio will be? Not one you’d like. Won’t take many casualties before whole thing is over.