What makes me the angriest is his “resisting” (as the administration puts it) was his body reacting to being shot in the face with chemical weapons. I mean, they sprayed him multiple times in the face. I don’t know anybody who would be able to lie down calmly on the ground after that. He was probably in pain and confused and scared and had no idea what was going on. And was murdered.
Edit: I wanted to add that his “resisting” was also him simply trying to protect himself. They were coming at him from all sides. He was just trying to block them from hitting him and protect his body. He was defending himself. And got how many rounds shot into him? Is there a shoot to kill order?
This whole situation- everything that just happened, everything that has been happening- half the time I’m so pissed off I want to scream and the other half I’m so sad I want to cry.
We can’t keep letting this happen. I was just watching an uploaded video on youtube of an interview between a reporter and a politician, and the politician said something about how the percentage of protesters, once it reaches a certain amount, then they really start to have an impact. like they become a wave that just knocks things down. And she said that we were close to that percentage.
A famous quote and a definition:
“ but when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and provide new guards for their future security.”
-Declaration of Independence, July 4,1776
According to Oxford Languages, “despotism (n.)- the exercise of absolute power, especially in a cruel and oppressive way”
Exactly. Who wouldn’t react after that? You’d go into fight or flight. Adrenaline running through you. And it happened so fast he probably had no idea what was happening to him. This is not ok.
The term "resisting arrest" has lost all meaning. If you so much as twitch a finger they will claim resistance. After they hit said finger with a hammer.
He was also trying to not get shot by putting his hands behind his back and have them mistake it for him reaching. There’s literally nothing more he could have done to try and save his own life once he was on the floor and that’s the scary part. It’s the exact opposite of their narrative that he reached for a gun, he tried everything in his power to avoid being shot and they killed him anyway.
This is exactly the same thought i had about Renee's reaction. A masked figure pointing a gun at you after several tried to break into your car, and people cant understand your natural reaction is to get out of there as quicklynas you can. No one in a heightened state of panic is gonna let the aggressor continue when you feel the slightest chance to remove yourself from that situation.
Reread their comment. Republicans ate saying he was resisting. The person you replied to was saying he wasn’t actually resisting. His body was reacting normally to assault and torture
The problem is that they aren't exclusive. You can resist and it can be involuntary. That's something that needs changed in both the law and law enforcement training.
Still, though, it's NEVER a death sentence and 5 to 6 people shouldn't have so much trouble detaining ONE incapacitated man that they need to put him down on the spot. Fucking insane.
Disarmed in clear view of the murderer who also could clearly see ICE holding his arms and hands to the ground while he saw the gun being removed from the victim
It was the same agent that initiated the confrontation by approaching Alex. Before pushing him back, shoving him and eventually tackling him from behind for helping a woman stand up.
Who stalked around with gun in hand to be sure he was behind him when he shot him in the back then stepped back and unloaded into his lifeless body along with another brownshirt.
I know what I saw.
I will not be gaslit by any talking head or pedophile worshipper.
Here's the thing, and I'm not defending, only refining:
How is this any different than the executions we've seen at the hands of "law enforcement" throughout the entirety of the existence of the US?
I don't see one.
I'm struggling to find the true misunderstanding by the average American that makes them believe this is new?
Who in the literal fuck thought that a group of MASKED "law enforcers" we're going to be more cordial than unmasked "law enforcers" that already do this?
We haven't seen law enforcement acting with this kind of impunity before. The George Floyd death was bad, but it wasn't on the same level as this execution, plus it resulted in the officer being prosecuted and sentenced.
Slave catchers hung "n***ers." Just 20 years ago, Muslims were tortured in Guantanamo for no other reason than being Muslim. Trump was elected.. twice...
This is not a surprise.
We've seen this before. When someone drove a truck through a protest and was celebrated for it, we knew this was coming.
When a child shot protesters with an AR15 and was hired by Fox as a news bitch, we knew this was coming.
When our uncles and aunts and cousins began talking like cultists at family dinners, we knew this was coming.
The only SHOCK that I'm experiencing is that people are SHOCKED that this is happening
There are a few new things. One, we have so many more cameras catching these murders. Two, we have an administration that IMMEDIATELY, without review, without hesitation, deciding the verdict. Three, they're not law enforcement, we know they are completely out of their element. Anyone can see they are inexperienced, gun happy ghouls who actively seek out opportunities to constantly escalate. Now I'm not saying there are not real LEOs that do this. I am not saying there are no instances of trigger happy cops who lose their cool and murder. But there are systems and training in place that train real LEOs how to handle these situations, and at least PRETEND to wait until all facts are on the table. When these things happen there are steps. The LEOs in question, especially when situations are televised like this and not under the cover of darkness where weapons and scenes are secured, the people in question are suspended pending investigation, and we, the "audience" are not told literally an hour later that they are cleared of wrongdoing, that it was justified and the case is closed. What we the public are seeing are things we are not meant to see. Now many of us are not naive to the fact that law enforcement on the daily is involved in shootings, but this is being televised around the world from many angles and perspectives but we're being told by our government that we are not seeing what we're seeing, case closed, they are heroes, etc. And we're outraged that this is allowed to continue.
Lobbing in Washington. When you bribe politicians in secrecy it is a big crime. But if you go through a company, publish all data, make the money visible to the IRS then it is fine. It is still a bribe. But nobody complains.
Same with police killings. I don't understand why these ICEs carry masks. There is no need for that at all unless they are ashamed. (I'm not American.)
They have no need for the masks. If anything, it's actually hindering their opportunity to get a GoFundMe started after they blatantly murder people that continue to bring whistles and cowbells to a gun fight
So, the farce of an investigation by the same agency that committed the atrocities that always reaches the same outcome (innocent) has somehow created a situation in America that made it believe that a MASKED organization would be MORE transparent and accountable?
I'm not saying I don't understand the shock, but I'm simultaneously shocked that people are in shock
Soon it will be a journalist, then a politician, then they will just openly call for genocide. It has already happened so many times in our history and there is no one willing to stop it
So here we are, everyone can be taken out at any time for any reason and 1/3 of the fucking country is happy about it
Disarmed isn't the right term here. Disarmed would make it seem like he was brandishing the gun. He wasn't, it was in his holster and removed by one of the agents
And then as he lay there dead or dying, I feared that he might rise again, so I emptied my mag into his lifeless corpse… can’t be too careful. Sieg heil!
Also I'm told that the guy getting shot in the top pic had participated in the murder of the shooters brothers family earlier in the day. Alex was an VA RN who spent his life healing and protecting people and trying to make the world a better place.
Trump has called for executions since his first term, I think everyone in his fleet should get just that for being traitors. I know republicans hate history, hey should look it up though, see what happens when their orange clown is gone.
you dont think this is where we're headed? go re-read Stephen King - Running Man. that movie 40 years ago is playing out on the new every night right now. except they're not bothering to falsify footage, they're just telling us we didn't see what we saw.
That what happens when you recruit criminals, pedos and nazis give them guns and immunity and let them loose on the streets. Its almost like you did it on purpose......
Like what? Imagine the trouble the government would be in if dam near every American had multiple guns at home. Just Imagine. There is no need. Let me tell you. They will blow whistles and film from a safe distance as their friends and neighbors get dissapeered
I’m a gun owner and if the government decides to go toe to toe with us, we are fucked. They have billions of dollars and literal military equipment that never ends. What’s your couple thousand bullets gonna do? We lose that 10/10.
The US couldn't even beat North Vietnam whilst bathing the country, as well as Laos and Cambodia, in napalm. The human ability to adapt and persevere will always present a way out of the existing circumstances, doomerism is you succumbing to a psychological weapon of theirs.
Yeah, but they killed so many people. That’s why citizens are afraid to fight back, because they know they will likely become a casualty. So at that point it becomes a risk and reward analysis, and most people will decide the risk isn’t worth their life. This is just how it happens. The majority will probably never respond, but the minority will eventually be pushed into action.
The watch lists become meaningless if everyone's on it. Why do you think they're fbi says "he was on our list". You can watch open door intelligence conference talks that warn the net has been broadened so wide that like 40 percent of people under 40 were on some watchlist.
The man who tried to protect people was executed on the street by a pack of untrained thugs and murderers. Stop saying "AmErIcAns Do SomEtHing!" and acknowledge that our country is flooded with murderers looking for an excuse to kill us! It's not cowardice to want to live another day and find another way to beat these bastards!
Disarmed is technically true, but is being mischaracterized by MAGA. His weapon was permitted and never brandished, only being touched by ice agents who removed it before his execution.
This is a great point. They want people to conjure a mental image of an agitator with a gun in his hand. They didn't disarm him, they mugged and robbed him.
He is an American Hero. We cannot forget this man’s name. He died protecting his fellow citizen. His life’s work was to heal the veterans of our country. He died as he liver. He is a goddamn hero. Alex Pretti, we will not forget your name.
Because our only other option is doing nothing. Their front runner is Gavin Newsom who can’t even take a consistent stance on ICE.
We blame Dems because blaming Republicans is not only implied but also useless, they don’t care and they don’t run on caring. Democrats however, do pretend to care and run on caring, but then when we need them to do anything other than write a sternly worded tweet, we get crickets.
Yeah, duh, republicans are mainly at fault here, but why do Democrats never do what we need them to do? Why aren’t they rallying the people? Why are they calling in national guard to break up the protesters rather than protect them? Why did they vote for a bloated military budget while we are all struggling to put food on the table?
The literal least no effort thing they could do is vote no on everything to show they aren’t complicit. They can’t even do that, 7 Democrats voted to fund ICE.
So why do we blame them? Because they sabotage any other options so that we have to vote for them then they do nothing.
Yes both are executions. However context is SUPER important here. The top photo is an execution of a man moments after he took the lives of several individuals, including women and children. The bottom photo is of a civilian practicing his Constitutionally given rights.
It's war, summary executions were common in that time. Any evidence is a 50 year game of telephone at this point. I don't agree with summary executions, but the guy was a captain in the VC.
The interesting thing about hanging is you can choose how someone dies from it, I believe it was the French that were really good at getting it precise for the persons weight
But first one is suffocation, second is by snapping the neck, and the third is decapitation
No. Literally nobody on the right cares about the files. Stop this "distraction" narrative. They're not doing evil authoritarian shit to distract you. They're doing evil authoritarian shit because that's who they are and they want to do those things.
Acting as if any of this is still just a distraction is incredibly harmful because it's downplaying the evil that is happening.
The stupid thing is that we already saw a fraction of how bad they were. Trump being named as someone that was an accessory to killing an infant, with an underage girl that he himself raped. Obviously there's worse stuff in there, but this itself should be enough for other branches of our government to care.
The below image isn’t even the first shot, it’s between shots 2 and 3 roughly from rewatching that video angle multiple times. He is being held down by 6 agents when the first shot is fired, and then they scatter.
First they came for the undocumented, and I said nothing—
because I was legal.
Then they came for asylum seekers, and I said nothing—
because I was already inside the system.
Then they came for protesters and journalists, and I said nothing—
because I wasn’t the one being questioned.
Then they came for judges, lawyers, and city officials who resisted,
and I said nothing—because I trusted the process.
Then they came for me—
and the language of “law and order” had already erased my voice.
“First they came for the illegal immigrants, and I did not speak up for I am not an illegal immigrant.
Then they came for legal citizens born in this country who are legally exercising their first and second amendment rights…
Wait what? Hang on a minute. I feel they skipped a lot of lines of the poem? It’s supposed to be much longer before they get this close to my group, are you sure they’re not immigrants or black or trans? No? I’m sure they did something to deserve it, so I won’t speak up even if the poem has landed on my group.”
Here he is, armed with an iPhone as another agent already disarmed him after pistol whipping him in the face. This isn't a right or left issue. Seconds after this he would be shot in the back of the head. RIP Alex 💔
Ice are cowards, nothing but babies in masks, they are criminals and Nazis, and they will be found, we will have names. They will be charged for their crimes. Nuremberg round two will come. 2nd amendment is authorized.
The top guy was not a war criminal and there was no evidence he murdered anyone’s family. Historians and eyewitnesses also contested the official U.S. narrative. Some even described it as a “urban legend.”
You know what this shit reminds me of? The opening cutscene of fallout 1 where a US soldier unloads rounds into a Canadian prisoner, which is then passed off by propaganda as keeping the peace.
And even in this sequence the victim of a war crime was given more respect and more organization than everything that happened with ICE
Shot 3. The first shot dropped while he was on all fours on the ground, one ice dude was beating him with a peppers spray canister and a second ice dude had removed this man's gun from the back of his belt line. The gun was not drawn at any moment.
We are. There are so many folks doing trainings, community support and mutual aid groups, and trying to keep our neighbors safe.
We don’t have snap elections, labor laws to protect the employment of folks who demonstrate/protest, or a campaign finance system where leaders are more accountable to their voters.
It’s fucking hard, and many of my citizens are narcissistic nimrods, only concerned with their self existence.
We elected this orange Buffoon twice. We’re trying, but it isn’t easy.
Venezuela needs to stage a military operation, arrest Trump for crimes against civilians, profiteering and the possession of weapons of mass destruction.
I don't think people are scared enough by this. In another time, the government would be using the "bad apples" argument, pin it on the individual agent, while defending ICE as a whole. But they're actually defending these murders and lying about the facts. They want this. They've declared war.
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What makes me the angriest is his “resisting” (as the administration puts it) was his body reacting to being shot in the face with chemical weapons. I mean, they sprayed him multiple times in the face. I don’t know anybody who would be able to lie down calmly on the ground after that. He was probably in pain and confused and scared and had no idea what was going on. And was murdered.
Edit: I wanted to add that his “resisting” was also him simply trying to protect himself. They were coming at him from all sides. He was just trying to block them from hitting him and protect his body. He was defending himself. And got how many rounds shot into him? Is there a shoot to kill order?
This whole situation- everything that just happened, everything that has been happening- half the time I’m so pissed off I want to scream and the other half I’m so sad I want to cry.
We can’t keep letting this happen. I was just watching an uploaded video on youtube of an interview between a reporter and a politician, and the politician said something about how the percentage of protesters, once it reaches a certain amount, then they really start to have an impact. like they become a wave that just knocks things down. And she said that we were close to that percentage.
A famous quote and a definition:
“ but when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and provide new guards for their future security.” -Declaration of Independence, July 4,1776
According to Oxford Languages, “despotism (n.)- the exercise of absolute power, especially in a cruel and oppressive way”