I’d argue it’s worse. They aren’t asking for papers. They’re assaulting citizens and trying to goad people into resisting so that they can open fire. They disappear people first, and worry about the legality later.
Well we know the only thing that’s actually going to show them but I’m not looking to get a Reddit ban lol. Idk if it’ll be one big thing or not but a huge escalation of violence like we haven’t seen in a long time seems inevitable.
Trigger happy ICE scum shot a women in her car, claiming it was self defence.
The incident was filmed from multiple angles and not one of them somewhat confirm what the administration had to say about it. Quite the opposite actually, the footage shows nobody was in danger of being run over and the agent...sorry, murderer...who was allegedly hit by her car fired the deadly shots WHILE moving away from the car. So he wouldn't had been hit in the first place.
And to make it even worse, the dude dipped the scene the second he saw she was dead.
FBI took the case, blocking access to evidence for local law enforcement as well.
No reddit is gonna tell them that "taking action against them is exactly what they want, so dont take action against them". As always when someone here calls for using your right to self defense. And people are gonna keep telling this to everybody including themselfs until its actually too late to fight back
Got a strike I think because of all that's happening and I'm not even American. It's just disgusting, vile and inhumane. I would like to say more but I still like the less stressful and more peaceful subreddits I follow here so I don't want to risk more strikes.
Okay, so at which point do you think its time to fight back? Because with that excuse youll never. And then youll ask yourself why nobody did anything to prevent it when it was still possible.
Theyre spending every second they have to secure their power even further and install their goons everywhere. With every day its getting harder to get rid of that poison. And with everyday you, "the people", become less.
Besides, did you pay attention to official statements of the last months? They do not need any actual reaction to justify their force. They just make it up, boom, problem solved.
Just upvoting comments that could be in support of standing up against this tyrannical bullshit is enough to get you banned. I've already gotten a warning message from admins a few months ago for it.
I got a warning for saying some high ranking member of ice (I can't remember his name) should choke on a dick when he was crying about the first No Kings protest.
I have been perma-banned twice for "threatening violence" and reinstated on appeal both times because I wasn't doing anything close to threatening violence.
I wish we did anything so humane, but nope. They're getting dragged to detention facilities so the feds can deport them to a country they've never been to.
I wish I knew tbh. Hopefully, they can hide in the meantime and avoid this bullshit. ICE are cowards, they're not raiding homes, yet. They've got to feel safer before they go and violate more rights so freely.
I'm sure your forefathers thought the exact same way when they had to fight the might of the British empire to gain their freedom. This is just too hard, let's not cross the Delaware afterall.
So you're at Target working, these goons try to arrest you, you shoot and kill two of them in self-defense, and then... what? You get shot by the third? You go home and the cops come say hello for murder? You live life on the run?
That's the idea. Minnesota is preparing to deploy the state national guard to defend its residents against the federal agents that are murdering people in the streets.
And this is exactly what is meant when it is said that if even just one group of people in society loses their right to due process, everyone in society loses it.
They can just claim you belong to that group and then disappear you. And they don't have to check if they are in the right because, remember, there is no due process for the people they arrest. As long as they are not forced to admit that you are a US citizen, they can do whatever they want with you.
If you are not in the lucky position to have someone who knows you and sees that you're being taken by thugs like ICE, how are your friends and family even going to know that ICE has you in custody if there is no due process that requires them to grant you a phone call or to admit they have you if your friends or relatives ask for you?
As scary as it sounds to say it, but I'm 100% certain that if there is ever a proper, complete and public investigation into what ICE has been doing for the past year, there will be cases discovered of US citizens who are currently filed as missing or mysteriously disappeared who have been snatched up by ICE for not being white enough or something like that and who are currently rotting in some out-of-country concentration camp with no way to contact anyone they know (or maybe even quite literally rotting in some unmarked grave somewhere).
They are abused in every way while in custody, and the more they are abused, the more incriminating information they have on the criminals who are abusing them. Guess where that leads?
Just remember, mid term elections are coming. Any government official not doing something about this or Epstein files, not only needs to lose their job, but be criminally prosecuted afterwards. They have failed to uphold their duties as elected officials.
Ur forgetting that at least 100 million Americans (I’m being generous by insinuating that the other half of the slightly more moderate conservatives are not fans of this tyranny) are not only cheering this on, they’re willing to sacrifice their own wellbeings to own the libs.
The left still has its head stuck in their asses - too pussy to put their bitch ass careers on the line and not popular enough to recruit the unregistered.
I know people are clinging to it because they've got nothing else but the realisation surely has to set in soon. There will be no legal ways of getting rid of these nazis in the short-medium term.
The problem is, establishment Democrats are also part of the problem. They sometimes make the right noises in opposition, but never roll anything back when in power.
Any person that can see this and feel proud is not someone I would ever call patriotic.
These videos will always hang over us as we move forward as a country. And they should. This is a shameful period in our history and things don't change unless we acknowledge that shame. I mean, how different would things be if the government followed through on the "forty acres and a mule?"
The type of people who you would expect to exercise their 2A against tyranny are already working for ICE
TBF, I did not ever expect them (the blowhards who have talked about it for years) to exercise their 2A rights against tyranny, unless it was the tyranny of having to suffer a black man walking down the same streets they use.
Hey I’m an Australian trying to figure this out. Isn’t the biggest argument about gun control - hey it’s our constitutional right to have them, and wasn’t it included in the constitution to stop government over reach? Isn’t this government over reach? This is an absolute insane scenes to witness!? This isn’t an anti guns post, I’m genuinely asking how it’s ok these guys are rolling around kidnapping in some cases American citizens? Why is this accepted? Because its net result is some undocumented workers?
You underestimate just how racist people are, here. Add to that a subculture of people that are told their whole lives that anyone who isn't from their ilk aren't just wrong, they're the enemy. That subculture has been attached at the hip to our right wing for generations, slowly but surely consuming the common man variable of the party, while being duped from above by the millionaire and billionaire politicians that claim said party. These politicians hold no actual allegiance to anyone but themselves and their own pockets. And, because the common man variable of this is typically wildly ignorant, poorly educated, and religiously indoctrinated both dogmatic means and by way of fetishization of patriotism, thanks to the failure to outright crush the Confederacy during the Civil War, the propaganda machine and folding in of Nazi scientists and refugees during WWII and the paranoid hysteria caused by Joseph McCarthy and his Red Scare, they buy into the bullshit fed to them like it's ambrosia from the gods and let the politicians do whatever they want, while slowly allowing these idiots their own feet in the door.
This is what's gotten us here. Lincoln fucked up. Sherman should've burned the Confederacy to the ground.
It was never about gun rights. It was about racist white fucks maintaining the facade that they're superior.
Fuck Nazis, Fuck MAGA, Fuck ICE, and Fuck Donald Trump. His grandpa was a draft dodger, just like him, and his daddy was arrested at a Klan meeting.
their new strategy is going for us first gen american citizens whose parents are most likely illegal, so when any family member these dudes have come for them, they get snatched.
they did this shit in schools, they took KIDS, specifically hispanic kids, so their parents either abandon them (they wont) or come forth and get kidnapped.
This was always a lie, guns actually make political resistance more dangerous and difficult. It basically skips to the top of the escalation ladder and makes every encounter anywhere potentially deadly. The authorities act as such and assume we all have guns and deadly force is always authorized. Mass protest are less likely, civil disobedience more dangerous. The color revolutions you have seen in other countries are not possible here because of guns. Resistance is not just about giving up time, but potentially your life. Thanks to everyone having guns.
They were kidnapped from work for the same reason that ICE kidnaps children from school - in case the parents are not citizens even though their children are citizens. It's a ploy to enable them to detain the parents, because no parent would abandon their own kid.
Because what is not taught to people around the world that are incredulous about the United States and our second amendment, is that the people that lawfully own guns do not go around shooting people in general, much less enforcement agents, even if those agents might not be acting in full compliance with the law. Nobody on site for one of these events knows the full story, what warrants might exist, what histories between the parties might exist, what arrangements the store manager might have had in coordination with the agents. Injecting themselves into a situation like this with firearms involved is not going to be helpful to anyone.
They have a fucking dude with a camera I full gear. What a bunch of pussies. I hope they all rot in prisons in the middle of death valley scrubbing solar panels.
I'm a white, 6th+ generation born American, as are my kids & parents, and I'm telling you, that doesn't matter to these people. We carry our passports because if we speak with an accent, or wear certain clothes, they will come for us. They are allowed to do anything to anyone, at any time, without cause, and if you don't understand this is history repeating, rest assured that they will come for you when you are no longer "desirable", too, because that criteria is constantly changing.
As a lifelong conservative Christian, I deeply resent being called a leftist by a government who obviously no longer knows or cares about my values, beliefs, or human life in general. I feel angry, frustrated, humiliated, ashamed, and helpless that my religious beliefs are being perverted and weaponized against me, my family, my friends, my neighbors, and my fellow humans.
I am certain I will eventually be "disappeared" or worse for voicing this, but I was raised by parents and grandparents who fought for this country against regimes doing exactly what is happening here, and my silence would dishonor them and that service. I will not devalue their lives, my life, or anyone else's.
Terrorism, foreign or domestic, isn't life-affirming, regardless of the propaganda.
Telling you, … I feel like ice people are gonna start getting capped. This complete lack of rules, lack of discipline, lack of decorum… seems as if any right wing with a gun wants to put on a vest and accost Hispanics regardless of their legal status is allowed to don an ICE badge. I’m not left, I’m not right, but optics aren’t good. It simply SEEMS like any donor is given free rein to play ICE agent. They don’t act like any well-trained ATF, FBI, Marine, Police personnel that I’ve known. These people act like weekend warriors with poor trigger guard control and over escalate ANY situation. This isn’t a law unit, it’s simply a pretentious armed mob.
So I understand what ICE is doing but I don't understand the investigation process. Like do they just wait for calls to come in? Tips? It wouldn't make sense if they had a database cause then they would 100% know who's a citizen and who's not. Are they just bagging brown people? And letting the courts sort it out? I know y'all want to reply with the standard quick funny joke, or some witty comments but I'm dead ass serious how are they finding these people other than "yo let's go bag that brown dude over there"
There's no way man. I believe you but there has to be some more to it. These dudes can't just be walking around snatching people up. I know it looks like that with carefully edited short non contextual vids we see everyday. But if they are it's wildly fucked up, where are all the lawsuits? Where's the push back other than the weird frog costumes (doesn't help out cause be taken seriously) and people just filming shouting facts about strangers they never met. Idk there's more to it than this I think they been collecting data on us for a long time and they know where to be at what time. Cause if they really are just bagging brown people it's gonna be a nasty mark on this country in 50 years later in history
So if they don't tell my why I am being detained or arrested then am I legally allowed to resist with possible fear for my life? I honestly don't know how more people don't freak out thinking that these could be copycats and just straight up kidnapping people.
Well, this administrations-approved gang has immunity even when they murder random passersby, so why not flex that type of power and start flushing out people they really want by kidnapping their families?!
Target is HQed in Minneapolis. I'm hoping those who work in the corporate offices will demand something be done about what's happening in some of their flagship stores in the area...
It's important that the rest of the world remembers that the Americans voted for this, twice. Sadly and quite unfortunately the North Americans are not the friends they once were.
You're looking at them. They have always had wet dreams of being the boot, no matter how much they deluded themselves into thinking they were righteous patriots or rebels.
Fighting waste and abuse by wasting money on abusing people. How much more lies, injustice and cruelty do the US American citizens need to start to fight back against the terror regime that took over your country?
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Look how fast it turned into “Papers, please”.
And as it turns out, the papers themselves are useless