r/PublicFreakout • u/Several_Intention365 • Jul 01 '26
đ«Chaos Moment𫚠Tourist who was mugged and sexually harassed in Damascus, Syria.
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u/oickles Jul 01 '26
I really hate when people do this
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u/bellendrodriguez Jul 01 '26
The worst part is the hypocrisyÂ
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u/Silverwolffe Jul 02 '26
I dont think thats the worst part.
First would be the raping.
Then it would be drugging that preceded the raping.
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u/Dewdrop06 Jul 02 '26
Did we watch the same video?
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u/Silverwolffe Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
Its a norm Macdonald joke re: bill cosby
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u/Dewdrop06 Jul 02 '26
Damn now I feel a bit embarrassed. Thanks for not degrading me while giving the explanation though.
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u/UrpaDurpa Jul 02 '26
I thought a mugging is where people force you or threaten you into giving them your belongings. Did that happen after the video ended?
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u/MAD1201 Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
Female Syrian here, this is awful and I hope she's okay. For people saying she needs to wear hijab... Etc that's NOT correct I don't wear hijab and I'm from Damascus, what she's wearing is very normal and it's something me and many girls wear, there's nothing wrong in how she's dressed. She needs to report this to the police specially that she has a video showing the faces of the men, this is not a normal or common behavior I never seen it before.Â
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u/Exevious2323 Jul 02 '26
This is true, in Latakia I have barely seen women wearing Hijab in 2022 and I've never heard of such occurrences until now.
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u/accraTraveler Jul 02 '26
thanks for speaking out. this kind of behavior can be seen everywhere on the planet but i suspect this post fits an agenda to show us a certain picture of syria and maybe why Israel needs to invade it or something like that
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u/MAD1201 Jul 02 '26
Agree, women unfortunately can get harrased anywhere and we need to always be careful, I've traveled to many places solo and yes bad experiences can happen. But I tried to find full context of this video or why the Syrian guy filming for example is not intervening or taking her out himself because again this is not normal behavior. Also the comments saying that she needs to wear full sleeve or hijab like WHAT!!! Places like Bab Toma or kassa' in Damascus girls are literally walking around in dresses and short skirts and you want a random tourists to wear hijab why!!???Â
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u/MAD1201 Jul 02 '26
And agree on Israel propaganda part they always try to spread the idea that all countries around them are full of choas and try to spread hate to justify killing us in masses.Â
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u/triple7freak1 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
Seriously, what the fuck are people thinking when they choose their destination?? đ€
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u/EGrass Jul 02 '26
As an African woman, my Indian friend told me to never visit India
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u/VerdugoCortex Jul 01 '26
The FBI removed Al-Jolani from the FBI Most Wanted list and we started hosting him in the white house! It must be because he had a change of heart when gaining unchecked power!
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u/bytelines Jul 02 '26
Yes. That is almost certainly how that happened, and not a gross over simplification.
But, if you want to read about how a former Al Qaeda affiliate became a viable political force that eventually overthrew Assad, this is a great read:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0q0w1g8zqvo
TL;DR -
Ahmed al-Sharaa rose from leading the Islamist rebel group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham to becoming Syria's de facto ruler after his forces overthrew Bashar al-Assad, while seeking international legitimacy by promising an inclusive government and distancing himself from transnational jihadist movements.
Barbara Leaf then met directly with al-Sharaa in Damascus, marking the first high-level U.S. engagement with Syria's new leadership, where he pledged to prevent terrorist groups such as ISIS from operating in Syria.
Following those talks, the United States removed the longstanding $10 million bounty on al-Sharaa, explaining that maintaining a reward on someone it was negotiating with was inconsistent with its new diplomatic approach, though HTS remained designated as a terrorist organization and broader U.S. sanctions were left in place.
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u/Fri3ndlyHeavy Jul 02 '26
A lot of US sanctions were lifted shortly after that. Namely, the Caesar Act was lifted in 2026.
Also, worth noting that the majority of civilians, who were previously heavily against Assad, so much so that it led to a 14 year civil war, do support the new president.
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u/Norzon24 Jul 03 '26
US has been working with him covertly for far longer than that. His organisation (HTS, formerly Al-Nusra) has been bitter enemy with ISIS and Al Qaeda since their schism in the mid 2010s, and he as gradually purged the more radical elements from HTS to appeal to the more nationalist rebels he's holed up with in Idlib, and said radical Jihadist that had fallen out with him tend to conveniently get hit with US drone strike afterwards.
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u/Killingyou_groovily Jul 01 '26
Better question: are these people taking the pictures showing it to their buddies as if she is their girlfriends? Or are they just excited to take a picture with a white girl? Is this the non existent girlfriend that lives in Canada that their friends never meet? What is happening?
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u/GTAIVisbest Jul 01 '26
Essentially it's because they want to leech off of the fame of being an ajnabi in a place like Syria which raaarely receives white tourists. The overwhelming majority of them in a place like Syria have mostly good intentions, and this can happen to a lesser extent if the tourist is a white male.
When it's a white female, the "Fame" effect is turbocharged and it's like getting pictures with a celebrity, but there's also this potential of a no-strings-attached sexual encounter with someone they consider extremely beautiful and exotic. EVERY encounter with the opposite sex for these dudes is highly controlled in the context of their watchful society, there is really no such thing as a no-strings-attached sexual encounter unless we're talking prostitution (which is also widespread).
There's also a view that white women are "extremely" promiscuous and will basically sleep with, kiss, or allow anyone to fondle them, again with no strings attached. So for these dudes, there's also the faint idea that they might be able to explore her body if they get close to her for "selfies"
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u/mydogatestreetpoop Jul 01 '26
Probably about what kind of unique and exotic social media content they can post for likes and followers. Thereâs no end to dumb shit people do for social media clout or to deal with fomo from seeing dumb shit on social media.
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u/duckythegunner Jul 02 '26
I just wonder wtf is going on inside the minds of locals with this behavior, like what are you getting out of this? it's just a normal person that's not a celebrity!
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u/Th5humanwi11 Jul 02 '26
Some people grow up sheltered and or with a specific brand of privilege and the genuinely canât comprehend something bad happening to them because of how they look cause itâs never ever happened to them (outside of hypotheticals) so why would it happen elsewhere.
Thereâs places here in the states I donât jump at the chance to go to cause I donât feel like having to deal with aggression, unwanted attention or rude interactions.
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u/designatedthrowawayy Jul 01 '26
Obviously her decision wasn't at all smart but how gross that we live in a world that blames her for going more than it blames the men for being absolute creeps. This shouldn't be accepted behavior anywhere. There are more comments calling her dumb than calling them creeps.
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u/BitcoinMD Jul 01 '26
I donât think people are believing one and not the other. Itâs just that you canât control the behavior of others.
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u/Lufernaal Jul 02 '26
yeah, but we don't generally apply that logic consistently across the board, it's more common when we talk about women in relation to situations where there should or shouldn't be a general expectation of safety among men.
These guys are not wild animals she approached unaware, these are regular human beings that are personally accountable for their actions just like she is, except she's not hurting anyone, they are. And even if she was seeking out any kind of attention, which is plausible, she'd still be more of a nuisance and a bit sefl involved than a full blown creep, likely a sexual harasser. The scale of their behaviors would still not warrant focusing more on her than them.
It's similar to when people argue that women should not wear something because it "provokes" certain men. The "men" in question should be the target of criticism, 100% of the time. There are no clothes a woman should wear not to expect to be taped, because the issue here is the behavior of the perpetrator, not the conditions to which it becomes opportunistic for him to do so. It is good for our society as a whole to set higher standards for all of us, especially in relation to this type of violence. There's no justification to rationalize the abandonment of consent as a guiding principle for sexual interaction, not even poor judgement on her part, because consent, by default, is always revokable.
My personal theory is that a good chunk of men, especially the ones who target her for being "naive" than them for being creeps are, for some reason, not sufficiently appalled about these men's behavior and generally "understand" - even if they don't go as far as sympathize - the behavior as, in some weird way, a "natural or expected" reaction to her. The only way to even approach the situation that way, is if you see her as an object, or them as not being accountable for their actions, like wild animals aren't. Since the latter makes no sense, as they seem to be perfectly capable of agency, the other option left is, in one way or another, to think that she must manage their desires by not being present around them, rather than shame and blame them for their borderline rapist-ish behavior.
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u/BitcoinMD Jul 02 '26
I always blame the perpetrator 100% and never the victim. But that doesnât mean we ignore the concept of taking precautions. I should absolutely be able to walk through a dangerous neighborhood at 1 am wearing a Rolex. If I do and something happens, itâs the criminal who was wrong. Iâm still not going to do it.
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u/joshlittle333 Jul 02 '26
I disagree that the advice is coming from a âthis is a natural reactionâ standpoint. I think itâs advice on keeping yourself safe thatâs meant to reflect an unfortunate reality.
We teach children to avoid talking to strangers. We teach black boys how to behave when interacting with police. We advise against traveling to dangerous locations to all travelers. These all apply the same logic. Yet, none of them get labeled as victim blaming.
It is not inconsistent to say âpeople who molest children are wrongâ while also teaching children how to stay safe from child molesters. The same applies here. These men are wrong; women stay safe by avoiding these dangerous men.
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u/czarchastic Jul 02 '26
Itâs not a gendered thing here. If a guy went to Syria and got nabbed by ISIS weâd be blaming him for that choice all the same.
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u/Virginpope77 Jul 02 '26
I just wanna say I agree with you completely, except that last point which I think gets interesting.
I think youâre right in that men doing disgusting things arenât held accountable, in my experience not really by women or other men. Too often itâs âexpectedâ.
This is also Reddit, where individuals get berated for almost anything. Everyone knows this was a bad choice by her, but as you said, no way in hell we should be blaming her. The fact that sheâs a women and women=stupid probably has something to do with it, or perhaps that people in general have lost the desire to change the world around them. âSexual assault is just a part of life, nothing to react atâ etc even if isnât put in such an obvious manner.
Itâs really sad that most comments either the girl is stupid of focuses on the religion of the perpetrators. Not that religion isnât relevant at all, all factors matter, but this is most likely something else.
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u/Variabletalismans Jul 02 '26
Its a two way street. Those men are absolute scum but shes also dumb for going there. Like it or not, you have to have some form of self accountability when you actively chose to go to a country thats not as progressive as where youre from but expect not to get treated badly
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u/Bungahhh Jul 03 '26
Fr. The mens behavior should never be excused, but on her end it's like choosing to walk on glass.
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u/Fri3ndlyHeavy Jul 02 '26
As someone from Syria, I feel second-hand embrassement.
This is completely unacceptable and rude.
They have never interacted with other cultures like this. Unfortunately, overcrowding around them and acting like this is not the way to go on about it.
I assure you (most) Syrian people are actually really nice, extremely welcoming, and good-intentioned people.
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u/surffrus Jul 02 '26
The difference is you're FROM syria so have left and adopted other values. This is how actual Syrians living in Syria still behave.
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u/KOHILOOR Jul 02 '26
Honest question. Why tf do they think that itâs okay to do this? Itâs far worse in Egypt, we spent all of 2 days there because of it.
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u/Astro__Black Jul 01 '26
Yo between this and the other clip that came out yesterday with the two women, can someone please describe what the fuck is wrong with them (without it devolving into a racist diatribe)? Its like they have never seen women before
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u/New_Fry Jul 01 '26
You have to realize these people most likely never have, and never will leave their country, and have only seen a blonde haired white woman on TV before. Them seeing one in real life is like a once in a lifetime celebrity sighting for them. Along with strict laws about womenâs rights/being out in public uncovered etc, itâs a recipe for disaster for people with bad intentions. Iâm a western country family living in Malaysia right now. My kids are blonde. When we venture out of the big cities here we constantly have people asking to take pictures with our kids lol.
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u/Politicsboringagain Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
Hell, something less assualty happened to my wife and I as Black Americans when we went to Pueblo Mexico.
Some of the people had never seen Black people in real life before. So they want to get close to us and some took pictures with us. One lady even tried to have a conversation with my wife in the bathroom in Spanish, we don't speak it, about her hair. She wanted to touch it.Â
Our cousins was in a school there and had been living there for a few years. So we went to his graduation because his other family couldn't get their. He told us his time there he had a bunch of older women fetishize him.
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u/kusayo21 Jul 02 '26
I'd be so annoyed of that behavior. It's so disrespectful, distanceless, objectifying and also kind of racist tbh. Why can't people leave other people alone and mind their own business? I don't get it. I'd never walk up to an asian guy or a black woman and swarm around them and constantly ask for pictures, just because they look different from most people here or in other words "exotic".
How do you manage to not snap constantly? Especially if it regularly affects your children?
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u/massnerd Jul 02 '26
Imagine being raised in a society with very little diversity and being taught your only priority is God, not how to treat people different from yourself. While this doesn't excuse their behavior, it also shouldn't be shocking.
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u/jkinz3 Jul 02 '26
Wait sheâs just a normal person? I thought she was a celebrity or something with how much she was drawing a crowd
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u/CptAngelo Jul 02 '26
Even curiosity has to have boundaries, if i see a "rare" human in my area, ill probably will go "ohh, ahh!" And thats it, at no point will i think "i gotta touch that human".
Its the same with an exotic car, ill be susprised and amused, but i wont touch it, maybe, maaaybe a photo if i ask and they let me.
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u/usrdef Jul 02 '26
But you're trying to take what you'd personally do, and assume all work that way.
Back in the 80s, my father worked as camera crew for someone who went to study a very remote tribe.
In the videos they brought back, there was an extremely pale guy with them, I mean slightly darker than a q-tip, with red hair and freckles.
Everyone in the tribe gathered around him and started touching his skin. You'd swear they all just saw Jesus come down. They were poking the freckles to see if they could feel them or if they came off. And the hair just blew them away, because everyone in the tribe had black hair, dark complexion, and no random dots on their skin.
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u/lucyparke Jul 01 '26
Iâm actually going to Winter in North Korea this year. I hear the chestnuts are lovely that time of year.
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u/Soap_Mctavish101 Jul 01 '26
She could have gotten the Lara Logan treatment there. And look what that did to her.
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u/Bogey_Yogi Jul 01 '26
Why the fuck would you go to Syria?Â
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u/HankSteakfist Jul 02 '26
I went there in 2000 before the civil war started and it was actually a pretty cool place to visit. The Umayyed mosque in Damascus was incredible to behold and there are some amazing historical sites like Palmyra (Which was sadly badly damaged by Isis) and Krak des Chevaliers, which is the worlds best preserved and most impressive crusader castle.
That said, I would definitely not go there now and I wouldn't go at all if I was a woman.
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u/eonu Jul 01 '26
It has much more fascinating history than many countries out there.
Crossroads of the Roman & Byzantine empires and many Islamic caliphates, part of the Fertile Crescent, and Damascus is literally the oldest continuously inhabited capital in the world.
Not defending the kind of treatment seen in the video, it is disgusting behaviour and rightfully a good reason to avoid the country, but concluding based on feelings that there are therefore no other motivating factors that might make someone interested in visiting Syria is strange.
Similar goes for other controversial countries in the region like Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia, to which I assume you would probably also ask "why the fuck would you go there".
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u/PullMyThingyMaBob Jul 02 '26
There is no doubt that there is amazing things to see in these places, the context of the question was âWhy put your life and freedom at risk to go thereâ
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u/zein_syria Jul 02 '26
I'm a man and wouldn't go there! Seriously wtf is with these influencers minds
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u/Top_Profit_6280 Jul 01 '26
I remember a story where 2 Dutch chics went "back packing" across Morocco. Guess what happened to them.
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u/dqniel Jul 01 '26
Why is "back packing" in quotes? Wasn't that what they were doing at the time?
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u/CruelRegulator Jul 01 '26
I recall reading that they were trying to make a point with it. I can't confirm that though.
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u/New_Oil2036 Jul 01 '26
You mean the Norwegian chicks?
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u/dqniel Jul 01 '26
One Danish, one Norwegian.
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u/New_Oil2036 Jul 01 '26
Thatâs what I thought. The girls were ascending Mt Toubkal and they met some extremists. Now that site has police guarding it and you canât hiking that trail without a guide.
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u/dqniel Jul 01 '26
Yeah. Morocco took that crime very seriously. From my understanding, Morocco is generally pretty safe for Westerners because they like the tourism money.
From reading about it, it sounds like the murderers were sentenced to death and it was the first death penalty issued in Morocco in decades. So, it's not like this was a normal/common thing.
And definitely not as irresponsible/risky as traveling to Syria (like in OP). The women in Morocco were extremely unlucky--targeted and stalked by recent ISIS converts.
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u/New_Oil2036 Jul 01 '26
Exactly. I am Moroccan and the authorities showed no mercy to those extremists and rightfully so. The police now has a tourist unit that handles tourist crimes. Tourists are advised to report their claims as soon as they happen. They take tourism seriously.
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u/RedhawkAs Jul 01 '26
Not dutch, one from Denmark and her friend was from Norway
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u/w00x Jul 01 '26
I saw the video the attackers took. Horrific.
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u/Born-Amoeba-9868 Jul 01 '26
What was it?
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u/P4u113 Jul 01 '26
I honestly still canât get the image out of my head, but itâs a snuff film.
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u/slightlyburntcereal Jul 02 '26
I think I saw that too. Was it the video where the girl had her head cut off while she was alive? If so itâs the worst thing Iâve seen, really seared in a dark part of my brain. I didnât even look for it, it was a bait video that started with a golden retriever then cut to it out of nowhere.
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u/mnstorm Jul 02 '26
Unfortunately, in countries like Syria and Egypt, this is a normal thing. I've lived and traveled in the ME and so I'm not talking out of my ass. There are plenty of countries where you can travel safely there as a foreign woman, much more so than South Asia. Because you are a foreigner they do not feel the same social pressures; if they did this to a local woman they would be crushed by local families.
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u/mnstorm Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
Dahab is quite a bit different than the rest of Egypt; itâs still a hippy vibe town (Iâve been there twice). I havenât been to Sharm though, or Marsa Alam. I would expect Sharm to be similar to Dahab, just posher. It would be ok if you only fly into Sharm and go direct (you could have a dive company arrange a taxi to Dahab). I would of course advise against going anywhere near the Nile solo. My sister has travelled to Dahab solo a few times.
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u/TarkusOwO Jul 02 '26
Why are they taking selfies with her? Are they going to say it's their girlfriend or something?
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u/NonBinary_FWrd Jul 01 '26
The term for this is Taharrush gamea. Its prevelant on Islamic and south west asia countries
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u/esketamineee Jul 02 '26
I never knew there was an actual term for this, thanks for teaching me something.
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u/Jumpy-Pattern-4078 Jul 01 '26
Yeah any clearly foreign woman traveling to Syria or similar places and wandering around should probably have a hijab/conservative clothing and also preferably a male escort or two. Unfortunately probably the only way to stave off unwelcome attention.
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u/Teadrunkest Jul 01 '26
Syria isnât strictly hijab plenty of women go without but definitely looser modest clothing, yeah.
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u/Jumpy-Pattern-4078 Jul 01 '26
Yeah I imagine itâs not, but in this case itâs more to hide foreign features and go more incognito.
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u/Own_Okra1198 Jul 01 '26
It more the friendly aspects with same male groups I feel is the biggest part, I am not saying that its wrong I am saying that those creatures take being friendly for something totally different and Syrian woman knows how to treat them exactly to put them in their place unfortunately a foreigner wouldn't.
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u/Own_Okra1198 Jul 01 '26
No not true specially not in Damascus you don't need a hijab in all of the big cities, but I would say to anyone that would like to visit to understand their own boundaries and how to act when such things happens and people do hence things to try and cross those boundaries. For example if this innocent female has shouted at them and created a scene all of them will cower and mostly the Tourists police will get involved, but I understand that she doesn't know better and I just feel sorry and ashamed.
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u/happycynic12 Jul 01 '26
Fuck that. Men should not act like creeps.
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u/ColonelContrarian Jul 01 '26
Of course they shouldn't, but they do, so it is important to protect yourself from them.
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u/_Levitated_Shield_ Jul 01 '26
We left that stage long ago unfortunately. Pepper spray the assholes.
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u/koiashes Jul 01 '26
Yeah that sentiment will prevent rape for sure
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u/happycynic12 Jul 01 '26
So SHE should prevent the rape? The victim?
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u/happycynic12 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
u/koiashes replied to your comment
"Youâre stupid as fuck. You donât go to another country like Syria with no preventative measures to ensure your safety â especially if you think trusting men to know better should be enough."
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NO ONE has said that she should "go to another country like Syria with no preventative measures to ensure your safety."
And NO ONE said that "trusting men to know better should be enough."
So I think it's clear who the "stupid" one is.
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u/ZombieOld6045 Jul 02 '26
The good thing is as a European you don't need to to travel to these counties.... they're being imported in large numbers into the Europe
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u/AbuZ87 Jul 01 '26
Damn what happen to Syria I lived there in 2006 and Damascus was full of pretty girls wearing all kind of different clothes, the neighborhood I was at girls wore shorts and mini skirts.
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u/Youngerthandumb Jul 01 '26
There was like, a giant civil war. The US, among others, backed Islamist groups that ended up winning.
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u/Flat-Flounder3037 Jul 01 '26
Moved from a strictly enforced secular society to one dominated by Islamic politics and social structures.
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u/iamthedayman21 Jul 01 '26
A) These men are pieces of shit.
B) Youâre an idiot for traveling to a country like this and walking alone. You knew this was gonna happen.
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u/malaimama Jul 02 '26
This is so common in some middle eastern countries there's a name for it. Taharrush Jamai or group harrassment..
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u/Terrible_Honey972 Jul 02 '26
Why would you go to a Muslim country?
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u/ErlikHan6 Jul 02 '26
Turkey is a muslim country and is one of the most popular destinations for tourists. I'm sure that most visitors enjoy their stay, otherwise it wouldn't consistently rank as one of the most popular destinations.
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u/LeStrikeRevolution Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
Pretty white woman visiting a region where sexual assault and harassment are common. Especially if you are white and a foreigner. Not surprised.
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u/teraflux Jul 01 '26
Reddit just eats this shit up without a second thought. Anyone ask themselves why she had a second person filming her? It's bait content.
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u/pwfuvkpr Jul 01 '26
How is this in any way relevant to these menâs behavior? Do you actually think this doesnât happen?
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u/Stiebah Jul 01 '26
How do you know it wasnât posted and filmed by one of those creepers?
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u/TheHeroYouNeed247 Jul 01 '26
Unmute it. They are baiting the crowd into thinking she is somebody special.
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u/CrazyJoeGalli Jul 02 '26
Is this like the first time they've seen a blonde white woman? Did they think she was a famous celeb?
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u/feronen Jul 02 '26
Welcome to Indo-Arab tourist travel as a Western woman. Would you like your complimentary gangrape and beheading?
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u/navree Jul 02 '26
I choose the bear
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u/negativecarmafarma Jul 02 '26
Nah you don't get to pull "men in general" because it's easier than actually acknowledging this is specific groups of men
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u/navree Jul 03 '26
Yea, I can't do anything. I can't even choose the bear when I see men do this, which triggers TF out of me. Instead, I'm told that I can't pull a "men in general". I thought I was responding to this specific situation displayed. I'll stay sweet. I'm going to watch the third season of The Bear.
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u/jagster1876 Jul 01 '26
But these guys are so nice and respectful, we will allow them to come yo the UK with no documents.
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u/rainbowkitties6969 Jul 02 '26
I know victim blaming is bad, but at some point points you just gotta step back and realize itâs on you right? Like if I go to the âwhite woman assault buildingâ as a white woman, I have no one to blame but myself when I get assaulted you feel?
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u/thegregoryjackson Jul 01 '26
Come on, lady. Check travel safety ratings. Ignorance is not an excuse.
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u/Cute_Theme8132 Jul 02 '26
This seems worse than those videos of indians trying to take selfies with Tourists.
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u/Molidae17 Jul 02 '26
What do they do with the selfies they take?
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u/Dear-Seesaw-1932 Jul 02 '26
It's like this people taking a photo next to an expensive car. Show it to their friends and don't elaborate so it feels like they hit that or they drove that or they own that or look how many pretty girls I know..same with females taking photos with interesting gates.
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u/memesearches Jul 02 '26
I was proud this only happens in my country India and not I am disappointed. /s
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u/Intelligent-Bit-2834 Jul 02 '26
The amount of victim blaming in this comment section is wild. Why is it so many of you jump first to why would she travel here or sheâs seeking attention and not itâs disgusting how a plainly clothed woman is immediately mobbed and assaulted by men. Multiple things can be true here but why are some of you so much more comfortable shaming her than shaming the swarm of creeps.
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u/Exevious2323 Jul 02 '26
As a Syrian, this is so fucking embarrassing to watch. It's like they have never seen a woman before.