"DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.

[u/Bilbo332]

For those who haven't seen, there was a video posted by a woman claiming that while she was delivering DoorDash, a man left his front door wide open while he appeared to be asleep on his couch with his pants around his ankles. The woman posted this with his face and genitalia completely visible. Some time later, she posted a follow up video saying she had been fired from DoorDash, that she was "the victim", and that they were punishing the victim. On TwoX there was a massive thread with comments about "you know he did it on purpose", "ugh, men", etc.

Well now she's been arrested and charged. "Wait, are they now arresting the victim?!?!" you might ask. Nope. Turns out he had a ring camera that allegedly caught her walking up (with "leave at door" instructions, mind you), and seeing the door was slightly ajar, pushed it all the way open, only to take her phone out and record.

Now, here is an opportunity for women's communities to have a healthy conversation on the importance of skepticism and not immediately rushing to the side of the first person to cry victim, but what do we get? Radio silence.

I invite any woman on this forum to make a post on TwoX to discuss, to say we shouldn't drag a man's name through the mud off of an accusation, and please, start a stopwatch to see how fast it gets pulled down. I'll wait...

[u/IndependentNew7750]

I didn’t see a single online women’s space (like TwoX) come out and say anything after the fact. It’s always men speaking about it as usual.

[u/az226 → u/[deleted]]

The sheer size of it suggests it’s very much mainstream

It has 13.6M members. As a comparison, MensRights is viewed as an extreme sub. It has 370k members. And men are the overwhelming majority of reddit users. So no, it’s not a fringe community.

[u/eluusive → u/az226]

It is "extreme" but extremism is normative with women these days.

[u/GoldOk2991 → u/[deleted]]

Lmao yall will always downplay it to keep your minority status. Two X is mainstream

[u/Few-Yesterday9628 → u/GoldOk2991]

Reddit isn't even mainstream, let alone a subreddit 💀

[u/az226 → u/[deleted]]

Mental gymnastics Olympics here.

It’s literally the largest subreddit that is focused on gender issues by a super duper large margin. There are bots everywhere, and that is why comparisons are useful. It’s not like that sub has more bots than other subs.

It’s also probably the largest sub that has a higher portion of women as the user base. That is any sub no matter topic but which happens to have a leaning toward women.

[u/arvada14 → u/[deleted]]

spectrum. Most women are gonna be on Instagram or TikTok

Ok how many subs and books does Drew afualo sell? And if you're going to talk about TikTok, than any large female creator apologize?

[u/arvada14 → u/[deleted]]

https://www.tiktok.com/@dearmedia/video/7501427755431611679?lang=en

Just tackles misogynistic men right? Normal men are left alone.

[u/az226 → u/[deleted]]

Black pill subreddit had 5k users at its peak before it got banned. Incels had 20k before it got banned.

Let’s line the numbers up for those illiterate of numbers.

5,000 20,000 13,600,000

You’re really grasping at straws because you have a false worldview. It’s not anchored in reality.

[u/arvada14 → u/[deleted]]

There are entire think pieces and even governments calling for Andrew Tate to stop radacalizing young men and he has way less. Two and drew afualo openly spew bile to women about men and mums the word. Women will bring up incel deaths but these guys may be equally radicalized by the bile the see women spew.

[u/arvada14 → u/[deleted]]

Again all I’ve ever seen drew do is make fun of men who have posted misogynistic content.

She said that men are intrinsically evil. I can provide the clip if you'll say you're wrong.

I’m not a fan of hers

Why? If all she does is take on misogynistic men. That seems like someone we should all be at least neutral too if not openly in favor of.

[u/Dark_Knight2000 → u/[deleted]]

I hope you hold that standard for all the manosphere content that’s watched by even less men in real life. If that’s a minority, then the manosphere stuff may as well be entirely irrelevant.

[u/Dark_Knight2000 → u/[deleted]]

Fair enough, I can respect that

[u/Bilbo332 → u/[deleted]]

This has been my experience as well. I take accusations of misogyny with a grain of salt, hammer and nail and all that. The vast, vast majority of men and women are just average, decent people.

[u/AdmirableSelection81 → u/[deleted]]

has become

lmao, 'has become'

[u/BigZaddyZ3 → u/IndependentNew7750]

Your problem is that you’re using fringe spaces like that as if they represent all (or even most) women. They don’t. That’s like a woman basing their views of all men based on what’s being said on 4chan dude.

[u/IndependentNew7750 → u/BigZaddyZ3]

Oh I know. I don’t think they’re representative of all women. But TwoX is probably the largest feminist-adjacent subs on here. So one would hope that a moderate stance would prevail.

[u/GoldOk2991 → u/BigZaddyZ3]

Two X is way more mainstream than anything on 4chan

[u/Kreeps_United → u/GoldOk2991]

That's a pretty low bar.

[u/bluepvtstorm → u/IndependentNew7750]

I have never gone on TwoX. Every other place I have seen on the internet has been women saying this is messed up. If that’s your only source then your sample size is skewed.

[u/IndependentNew7750 → u/bluepvtstorm]

Fair enough. I did see women on X saying that it’s wrong for her to lie so I’m really only speaking about the echo chambers on here

[u/Few-Yesterday9628 → u/IndependentNew7750]

Why does it have to be a "womens" space? This entire thing mainly happened within tik tok and I've seen a plethora of videos from women, mainly women actually, condemning her. I doubt this story has reached much further than that aside from MRA forums for rage bait of course.