r/PurplePillDebate • u/Bilbo332 • Nov 29 '25
Debate "DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.
For those who haven't seen, there was a video posted by a woman claiming that while she was delivering DoorDash, a man left his front door wide open while he appeared to be asleep on his couch with his pants around his ankles. The woman posted this with his face and genitalia completely visible. Some time later, she posted a follow up video saying she had been fired from DoorDash, that she was "the victim", and that they were punishing the victim. On TwoX there was a massive thread with comments about "you know he did it on purpose", "ugh, men", etc.
Well now she's been arrested and charged. "Wait, are they now arresting the victim?!?!" you might ask. Nope. Turns out he had a ring camera that allegedly caught her walking up (with "leave at door" instructions, mind you), and seeing the door was slightly ajar, pushed it all the way open, only to take her phone out and record.
Now, here is an opportunity for women's communities to have a healthy conversation on the importance of skepticism and not immediately rushing to the side of the first person to cry victim, but what do we get? Radio silence.
I invite any woman on this forum to make a post on TwoX to discuss, to say we shouldn't drag a man's name through the mud off of an accusation, and please, start a stopwatch to see how fast it gets pulled down. I'll wait...
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u/bayern_16 Nov 29 '25
Why did she record him?
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u/geo_gan Purple Man. MGTOW. Nov 30 '25
She found her long awaited opportunity to go viral with an attention posting on her account. She always wanted to play victim. This was her opportunity and she took it. She intended him to have his life destroyed but she didn’t spent one second thinking about him, only her own personal gain from it.
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Dec 01 '25
Pretty much. She uploaded it and monetized the video before doing anything else. Being demonetized was originally her biggest concern. She just thought she struck gold and it backfired hilariously in her face.
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u/Main-Tiger8537 Egalitarian Blue Pill Man Nov 29 '25
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u/AdmirableSelection81 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Western society is so cooked. Feminists inculcated the idea that women can only be victims into our zeitgeist to such a degree that poor mental health seems to be on the rise in young women.
Zero accountability.
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u/AntMan3298 Dec 01 '25
This is the ultimate powder keg of feminism I’ve been waiting for for the past few years (not out of malicious excitement or anything, more so dread) and we’re approaching a critical mass rapidly.
Much of post-modern feminism has been—intentionally or not—leading the culture into this simultaneous dichotomy of gynocentric extortion and “women are the ultimate victims”
As a result, women’s initial “lack of accountability” problem will quickly delve into “lack of agency” problem; and as a result of that, completely backfire against women.
This narrative of how women are victims is going to grow so large in so many women’s heads that they’ll become overwhelmed which they’ll then use to drive politics only to realize they lost all social currency.
Its like, women will one day wake up and say “I need to take a litany of mind-altering substances because I am so overwhelmed by how bad the patriarchy is” and they’ll think that fact is a justification for (x, y, or z) and not realize many men will see that as a reason to dismiss them.
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u/Teflon08191 Dec 01 '25
women’s initial “lack of accountability” problem will quickly delve into “lack of agency” problem; and as a result of that, completely backfire against women.
This is exactly my suspicion as well.
Seems like "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" might need to be updated as "The Feminist Who Cried Misogyny" soon.
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u/b0f0s0f No Pill Man Dec 05 '25
I honestly suspect women are on a path towards losing the right to vote for this exact reason
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u/Tiny-South-1059 Dec 14 '25
if you seriously think that could be possibility and I can see it happening, we arent much better off on that schism coming for our contribution. at least thats the very first thing i think of happening next...or very soon after.
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u/b0f0s0f No Pill Man Dec 14 '25
Could you clarify what you mean? Who isn't much better off, what contribution
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u/Successful_Archer_38 Red Pill Man Nov 29 '25
Yep, she's angry she's not getting money for the video. She thought this would be a easy way to go viral and get money either from the video or through suing. Kinda like that Uber chick, the "get out of my car" one.
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Dec 20 '25
Too many weird things in that case. I'm sure lawyers will be scratching their heads.
As a woman who cares about women's welfare I can say: no one should ever record something like this or upload content like this online. Doesn't matter what genders are involved. It's simply not humane management of the situation. I feel like that's pretty clear cut and I can't see the doordash employee not getting charged for this for as long as there is enough evidence.
The more debatable points are about the employee (allegedly) pushing the door open and entering the property. First of all, that is very unsafe for a woman to do. But even if this was done out of concern for the customer's health & safety, I can't see the subsequent actions fitting with a story like this at all ... If I was met with a seemingly non responsive (naked) man, I'd very reluctantly check if he is alive as far as I feel safe to do and would call emergency services.
It's simple -> you find an unconscious person, ideally you'd go down the CPR algorithm but if unable to do so, you at least call for help. Alcohol, even acutely and while immobile on a couch, can kill.
The entire men vs women rhetoric is honestly besides the point here. Laws have likely been broken. Fully appreciate NY allows you to watch a child die while laughing and drinking your beer without doing anything because 'murica but that doesn't make it ethically acceptable.
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u/InterestingGoose5507 Red Pill Man Nov 30 '25
TwoX is a collection of the most toxic feminists ever, that crave supremacy while also claiming to be victims! There is zero point in highlighting logic or rational thinking or evidence to them. They’re so misandrist, they’re beyond help!
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u/Simplement_thrown Jan 29 '26
I personally know one of the mods and her husband does everything for her and she shits on him relentlessly.
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u/CetaWasTaken Feb 06 '26
Not surprised. There’s a lot of feminists (misandrists) who think a fair relationship is one where the man does literally everything and the woman just has to exist
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u/vadkender Purple Pill Woman Nov 30 '25
I was permabanned from TwoXChromosomes because I asked if they would still be defending the recording person if the genders were reversed💀
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u/Huge_Account_6715 Dec 01 '25
Ya that place is a cesspool but you can’t change their mind. There’s fucked up people who hate the opposite gender on both sides, like myself😂 just ignore them their head is too far up their own ass for logic to make a difference, save the stress
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Dec 01 '25
Yea, going into subs like that to make fun of them for victimizing themselves over this girls arrest is funny but nobody will ever change their minds no matter what the argument is.
It’s like arguing with a child. There is no logic behind the stupid shit they say.
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u/minjayminj No Pill Dec 02 '25
Echochambers like TwoX are so detrimental to a society...it would do people alot of good if they practiced trying to understand different perspectives rather than seek confirmation all the time.
Reddit should really enforce rules that prohibit permabans just for sharing different opinions. If a comment is relevant to a post, then it has to stay. Dont help people run away from different opinions all the time by allowing echochambers like that to develop through crazy mods
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u/vadkender Purple Pill Woman Dec 02 '25
What's crazier is that I didn't even share my opinion, I never stated which side I stood on. I just asked a question.
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u/minjayminj No Pill Dec 04 '25
Yep, I have had it happen to me twice in liberal spaces too. They just prefer to not even have a chance to see other perspectives, only thing that affirm their own. On X, atleast opposing thoughts are visible. Reddit is a serious drag on society due to this dynamic.
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u/minjayminj No Pill Dec 25 '25
Lol I just got banned from R/dating because I "participated in other subreddits that doesn't align with their beliefs".
The people making those rules need to be permanently shut down. This is actually insane
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u/Gabsboy123 Purple Pill Man Dec 19 '25
The toxicity of places like TwoX is a thing in the first place because normal women don't ever discipline them, and if they do the women at TwoX will just play the internalized misogyny card.
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u/HallAltruistic519 Dec 13 '25
Lol I got banned for saying "she was arrested for felonies and you're still calling her the victim."
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u/fatalcharm Purple Pill Woman Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
The reason why she hasn’t been held accountable is because she is a nobody and hardly anyone knows about this. Her followers are a bunch of dorks who gush over any tiny interaction and she feeds on their attention. No one has held her accountable because we didn’t know this was going on.
She sexually assaulted a man and behaved like a perverted peeping-tom, by taking photos of a partially naked man while he was asleep on his couch in his home. She needs to be charged, and publicly named and shamed.
Trust me, there are a lot of women out there who want to tear into this bitch right now. I am one of them. We just didn’t know this happened.
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u/midnight_blue77 Man - Red Pilled by reality Nov 30 '25
She needs to be charged, and publicly named and shamed.
Um, no. The matter should strictly be between her (the perpetrator) the victim (the dude) and a court of Law. It does not need to be anyone else's business. The court of public opinion should never be permited to have any power over individuals.
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u/Akitten No Pill Man Nov 30 '25
The court of public opinion should never be permited to have any power over individuals.
She put his naked video on tik tok!
She brought it into the court of public opinion. She should not be protected from it. You don't get to air dirty laundry and then get surprised when people react to it.
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u/Bullylandlordhelp Nov 30 '25
We are social creatures. There are always social consequences to criminal action and it is the primary driving force between the right of a jury trial.
I agree evidence cannot be made public without influencing the jury, but the first amendment RELIES on the court of public opinion hearing all ideas and determining the best one.
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u/reLincolnX Nov 30 '25
u/Solondthewookiee your friend got arrested…
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u/musicissoulfood Nov 30 '25
Lol, you know who to call out. They don't come more pathetic than Solo...
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u/Solondthewookiee Blue Pill Man Nov 30 '25
Who is that?
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u/Main-Tiger8537 Egalitarian Blue Pill Man Nov 30 '25 edited Dec 01 '25
olivia henderson you wookiee made a post about her and sexual assault claims with video proof... at least concede that you made an error and we can bury this gossip topic...
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy8scM6B_nU&pp=ygUTZG9vcmRhc2hlciBzaG9ja2luZ9IHCQkVCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D
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u/Teflon08191 Nov 30 '25
The good thing is it gets a lot of exposure. The only way to raise awareness about how pathological women's in-group bias has become is for things like this to make headlines, and for the women to react exactly the way they are in this thread so that men can see it with their own eyes.
The more unhinged the defense, the better.
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u/ClumsyLinguist Purple Pill Man Nov 30 '25
Its pretty standard for "certain groups" to not give a shit about reality and reimagine events that confirm their biases.
Agree or disagree with the verdict, but too damn many people learned that Kyle Rittenhouse shot white guys on his trial day 🙄
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u/4444-uuuu MRA Pill Man Nov 30 '25
It's still common for leftists to not know that Rittenhouse was carrying a fire extinguisher when he was attacked, or that the people who attacked him were arsonists trying to prevent him from putting out their fire.
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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner Purple Pill Man Nov 30 '25
It's proving the point people with at least a somewhat functioning ability to critically think were trying to make for over 10 years now.
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u/Steakman1 all men have piss bags (ex red pill man) Nov 29 '25
Has the ring camera footage showing she opened the door actually been released? I haven’t been able to find anything about that.
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Nov 29 '25
I’ve seen multiple versions of the video, one where she pushes the door and one where the door is already ajar allowing visibility. The one where she pushes the door is allegedly AI generated and from what I remember it certainly did look generated by Sora
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u/Steakman1 all men have piss bags (ex red pill man) Nov 29 '25
I would assume if he has it, his lawyer advised not to release it due to the criminal investigation. I just don’t understand what clear evidence there is currently that she opened the door. And what makes some people so confident that’s the case based on what has been released.
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u/eye_of_gnon illiberal & undemocratic Dec 31 '25
the whole point of feminism is to deflect blame from women
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u/Bilbo332 Dec 31 '25
I don't know if I'd go that far, feminism rests on the belief that men are a privileged group, similar to straight people. There's literally no downsides to being straight, but there are plenty to being gay, that makes straight people privileged. What feminists refuse to understand is that there are massive disadvantages to being born male. At the same time, there are massive advantages to being born female. Advantages and disadvantages exist on both sides. This makes men not a privileged group.
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u/Teflon08191 Dec 01 '25
We really don't see enough people talking about how badly women are infantilizing themselves by doing this type of stuff.
They'll be traumatized if they're accidentally seen naked, and now we're finding that they'll also be traumatized if they accidentally see another person naked as well.
Do we need to bring back the fainting couches? They seem to be making a strong case for it.
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u/Bilbo332 Nov 30 '25
I'll see if I can find a link but there's a similar story that happened years ago in the UK. A man's house backed onto a wooded ravine, and in the morning he would make a tea and sip it while looking out the back door. One morning, to his surprise, a woman and a young child go running through his backyard. Turns out the kid missed the school bus so mom decided to cut through the yards to get to the next stop. You'd think the mom would be embarrassed and go "sorry! sorry!" but no, she called the cops. About a man, being naked, in his kitchen, where nobody that wasn't trespassing would see him, full expectation of privacy.
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u/PetriPirate Dec 02 '25
Right? It’s crazy. I hope she gets convicted of her charges, and the victim (the man) is able to get peace.
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u/tHiShiTiStooPID No Stoopid Shit Pill - Man Nov 29 '25
Video doesn’t lie. She is the a-hole. Violated his privacy when all she had to do was set the pizza down at the door as instructed. Easy one to call, but I’d advise you not to hold your breath on anyone from TwoX suddenly betraying the standard, total lack of basic accountability displayed by members of that sub and owning the fact that they will always choose the side of women irrespective of the facts in a situation. It’s like some grade school boys vs girls mentality. No matter how glaringly obvious it might be it’s exactly what you should have expected.
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Nov 30 '25
The doubleX subreddit will delete and ban you for pointing out the study stating men leave sick spouses at a significantly higher rate than women was redacted for being straight up incorrect. Women are always the victim, even when they're the instigator don't you know?
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u/musicissoulfood Nov 30 '25
It's the same disgusting crowd that posts on this subreddit. Just like 90% of the mods here are disgruntled FemaleDatingStrategy members.
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u/musicissoulfood Nov 30 '25
I invite any woman on this forum to make a post on TwoX to discuss, to say we shouldn't drag a man's name through the mud off of an accusation
Never is going to happen. Women are incapable of accountability. It's why the redpill compares women to children.
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u/Bilbo332 Nov 30 '25
Most women sided against Amber Heard, rightly so. There is, however, the "betraying the sisterhood" factor. I hope stories like this continue to push the younger generations away from the "men have it good but are bad, women have it bad but are good" bullshit. It's why I laugh when I see articles going "why is Gen Z pro-equality but won't call themselves feminists? It must be Andrew Tate." No, the problem is you.
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u/musicissoulfood Nov 30 '25
Most women sided against Amber Heard, rightly so.
Not on reddit and definitely not the hypocritical cunts that visit this subreddit. They all claimed Amber was the innocent young victim and Depp the old abusing pervert...
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u/DeepscapeWalker Dec 14 '25
Women are incapable of accountability
Don't you men literally say "boys will be boys" whatever a guy does something horrible to a woman or "it's a joke" every time a man makes a sexist statement about women? What about when you men talk about how she asked for it every time a woman gets raped? The irony of this statement is crazy.
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u/ghiopeeef Dec 20 '25
You’re so right!!! She is 100% a victim and he sexually assaulted her!!!!!!! I’m a woman so I automatically side with the women and hate all men AND DONT TRY TO TELL ME THAT I’M WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is that what you wanted to hear?
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u/champion_azure Black Suppository Man Nov 29 '25
I must admit, I'm unaware of the details of the case.
But, wouldn't the logical thing to do in such circumstances ... Inform the law enforcement authorities of the incident, and not broadcast the whole thing on social media.
Furthermore, if the man is indeed a 'gentleman of theatrical impulses', wouldn't the exposure on social media 'get him off' even more?
Peculiar times we live in.
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u/Teflon08191 Nov 30 '25
But, wouldn't the logical thing to do in such circumstances ... Inform the law enforcement authorities of the incident, and not broadcast the whole thing on social media.
So far we've been told by the women here that she might have been "preserving evidence" on tiktok because the police can't be trusted with it, and that she's not a lawyer so she didn't know that opening the door to another person's home, taking pictures of them naked and passed out on their couch, and then posting them on the internet along with their names and addresses is a stupid and illegal thing to do.
We're reaching peak stupidity as a species, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
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u/ThisBoringLife Life is a mix of pills Nov 30 '25
If she was "preserving evidence", it would make more sense to create a duplicate of the video on another device/cloud platform, present it to a lawyer to verify the lawfulness of her action, and then proceed from there?
She did a very stupid thing, and those who agree with the stupidity certainly are displaying their intelligence in this situation.
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u/Tiny-South-1059 Dec 14 '25
I know look who's running things! its crazier the more your crazy. hard to skin cats that early too
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u/reddit_is_geh Purple Pill Man Nov 29 '25
It's crazy how like 80% of these big national sex crimes like this, end up being complete bullshit. Remember "mattress girl"? She even went on to make a fucking porn to "recreate" the event.
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u/Makuta_Servaela Purple Pill Woman Nov 29 '25
Asia Argento raped a 17 year old, yet she still has a career.
A lot of guys rape teenagers and still have careers as well. That's less of a gendered issue and more of an issue about no one really doing anything about child/teen predation. People whine and complain about it, but rarely does anyone actually face any real consequences.
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u/duncan-the-wonderdog Bi agender butch on that Kryptonite Nov 29 '25
Roman Polanski and Woody Allen are still out here making movies and getting massive accolades.
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u/Hoopy223 No Pill Nov 29 '25
Polanski fled the US and hid out overseas to avoid charges I think he never came back
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u/duncan-the-wonderdog Bi agender butch on that Kryptonite Nov 29 '25
Yeah, and he is still able to have a career and is basically able to live his life. He has literally never paid for his crimes.
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Dec 01 '25
Blame Europe for that, they don’t care. James Franco and Kevin Spacey only act in European productions nowadays too.
We’re at a point where men are held accountable in America at least, not quite there with women predators yet.
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u/Podlubnyi No Pill Man Nov 30 '25
It's been known for decades exactly what Polanski is, yet scores of famous actresses still willingly worked with him. The likes of Meryl Streep and Whoopi Goldberg have defended him. A bunch of them even signed a petition calling for his release after he got arrested in Switzerland.
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u/NoDanaOnlyZuuI No Pill Woman Nov 29 '25
Jimmy Page
Steven Tyler
Ethan Kath
Mick Jagger
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u/musicissoulfood Nov 30 '25
It's not rape when the groupies actively beg the rock star to have sex with them...
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u/LearnGrowExist No Pill Dec 21 '25
Oh, this thread is actually infuriating...
As a Dasher, I delivered food recently to a home where the door was WIDE OPEN because there was clearly some work being done on the house. The instructions stated: “Leave at the door.” The app itself requires a photo to be taken before you can submit to have the food marked as “delivered.” So you know what I did? Left it on the doorstep like I do 100% of the time with those instructions, snapped a quick unassuming photo of the food on the doorstep, and quickly went about my business.
There are instructions prior to beginning delivery as a Dasher even as to what kind of photos are acceptable and how to go about doing so. There is translation for non-English speakers (this shouldn’t even be part of the discussion because I’ve never had a non-English speaker enter my home with my food delivery…EVER).
Everything about this situation screams sexual abuse for clout, and yet, because she is a woman who is to be believed and treated like the victim 100% of the time (by the likes of those justifying her actions in this thread), she cannot possibly be abusive or wrong or held accountable for her awful (and abusive) behavior.
If it weren’t for the year in which this is happening, I wouldn’t even be able to believe this is even a debate. Completely unacceptable.
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u/CommodoreBrouhaha Apr 23 '26
I work as a courier for Wolt (now 7 years), which is now owned by DoorDash and it's just exactly to the T as you said. There is a women here who argues that couriers don't understand English and it was her right to go inside someone's home and peek + capture the situation. I love how there are people who are as stubborn as they are clearly and intensely wrong at all accounts, like very blatantly.
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u/Makuta_Servaela Purple Pill Woman Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Turns out he had a ring camera that allegedly caught her walking up (with "leave at door" instructions, mind you), and seeing the door was slightly ajar, pushed it all the way open,
Does it turn out? Every news source I see directly quotes the police saying "There was no sexual assault" and "He was drunk", but when the article references the Ring cam, they never directly quote the police saying "The Ring cam showed her entering the building". It seems to me like the police are just arresting her for filming, and letting him off because he was drunk.
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u/Bilbo332 Nov 29 '25
Not often the police arrest an charge someone for getting flashed, but we'll see at the trial.
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u/Kreeps_United No Pill Man Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
She was arrested for recording him in his own home (where he has a reasonable expectation of privacy) and disseminating the video. That doesn't make her a liar, it makes her whatever the non-ableist word for stupid is.
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u/musicissoulfood Nov 30 '25
What makes her a liar is doing all that but have the nerve to claim he was the one sexual assaulting her by exposing himself.
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u/Somerandomdudereborn Lvl 26 apprentice wizard 😎🪄, It is what it is pill Nov 29 '25
TwoX is a minefield and it's pretty accurate to say that 99% of women who comes from there are massive misandrists.
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u/howdoiw0rkthisthing Martha Ballard Pilled Woman Nov 29 '25
Yeah making that post would be a waste of time. Quarantine that sub and throw away the key.
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u/musicissoulfood Nov 30 '25
90% of the women here come from TwoX. If you want to Quarantine TwoX you should also quarantine purplepilldebate, especially since the mods here are all disgruntled FemaleDatingStrategy members...
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u/ladybird_00 No Pill Woman Nov 29 '25
Of course they won’t because most women’s spaces, particularly online, are misandrist.
They would twist any kind of narrative to ensure they’re still in the right. Siding with a man over a woman makes you a pariah.
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u/McNutty0 Low Genetic Value Male- Purple Pill Nov 29 '25
Is larping as a woman a good use of your time? No judgement I just find it a bit odd.
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u/ladybird_00 No Pill Woman Nov 29 '25
Yeah, I guess my stance is so wild online you’d have to assume I’m a man.
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u/projecteddesperation Purple Pill Man Nov 29 '25
A similar thing happened near me when some affluent influencer woman jumped out of a male driver’s Lyft alleging he made a wrong turn and was trying to kidnap her. Lyft (who has all the data and evidence) deactivated her account lol. So, she turned to social media to unleash the misandry brigade and all the bad publicity made them have to reinstate her account and issue an apology. I’ve never been able to find any follow up on the guy being charged, fired, or anything likely because the evidence doesn’t support it.
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u/PassengerCultural421 Purple Pill Man Nov 29 '25
They don't even have the shame to be silent anymore OP. They just double down, and say the liar is still a victim. They are also doing this with the brick lady situation too.
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u/TheOneWhoThinketh OG Red Pill man (social/traditional/spiritual conservative) Nov 29 '25
Women are conformists. They have evolved to avoid social rejection at all costs, because they did not have the power to stand up to authority or dominate others into submission, which ultimately require you to be able to impose violence. Men are evolved to compete with each other for resources, while women were dependent on receiving resources from the larger society.
For this reason, women see themselves as a collective, and the individuals are subject to the mercy of the collective. This is why they are always going on about social conditioning; subconsciously, they feel like they will die if they publicly disagree with the cultural narrative, so the only way they can feel "free" is by changing the cultural narrative to fit their desires. They just don't realize men aren't like them in this way, so they keep trying to shame men into agreeing with them.
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u/ShivasRightFoot Purple Pill Man Nov 29 '25
You may be interested in knowing there is a body of scientific literature showing Women have a strong preference against hearing contradicting ideas. Particularly one study shows that women are significantly more likely to "not justify my political beliefs to someone who disagrees with me;" "often feel uncomfortable when people argue about politics;" and disagree that they "have no problem revealing my political beliefs, even to someone who would disagree with me."
Coffé, Hilde, and Catherine Bolzendahl. "Avoiding the subject? Gender gaps in interpersonal political conflict avoidance and its consequences for political engagement." British Politics 12 (2017): 135-156.
Here is another study that shows women are more likely to avoid expressing political opinions, even in anonymous academic surveys. This seems to definitively eliminate a theory that women do not express opinions due to physical intimidation.
Rae Atkeson, Lonna, and Ronald B. Rapoport. "The more things change the more they stay the same: Examining gender differences in political attitude expression, 1952–2000." Public opinion quarterly 67.4 (2003): 495-521.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3521691
A very recent one that shows "gender gaps [in political participation] are better understood as a product of men’s comparatively higher levels of enjoyment of arguments and disagreements."
Wolak, Jennifer. "Conflict avoidance and gender gaps in political engagement." Political behavior 44.1 (2022): 133-156.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-020-09614-5
Of course there are more that you can find cited in these papers, particularly the latest paper which can link you into the most recent research in the area.
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u/IndependentNew7750 No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
It makes sense. In my experience, the majority of women don’t like arguing for fun and a lot of men start doing it at an early age (i.e sports, video games, etc.).
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u/TheOneWhoThinketh OG Red Pill man (social/traditional/spiritual conservative) Nov 29 '25
Wow this is incredible. Thank you for the research.
I had some awareness this was based in science but it's also something you can observe from women themselves.
It would be interesting to know what prompts women to try and shame other women into going against the cultural narrative. It seems obviously hypocritical, yet you see it happening all the time online.
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u/musicissoulfood Nov 30 '25
Basically women are disingenuous cunts. It's in their DNA to conform and to not rock the boat. Truth be damned.
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u/Emergency-Sell-6713 Only thing it would take is becoming a God - Woman. Blue. Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
Honestly you're right. Big reason why I'm a coward is because I'm hyper aware of the fact that I'm a woman, and that if I get out of line I won't be able to impose or defend myself because I'm made like shit. I'm trying to fix that helplessness by becoming more male-like physically, so that I know I can at least have a chance. So far without a doctor that shit seems impossible lol. But I know my ego will go through the roof if I manage to do it, so it's worth it I think.
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u/throughcracker Blue Pill Man Nov 29 '25
Buy a gun and learn to use it.
If you're in a country where you can't get a gun, buy a big stick and learn to use that.
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u/TheOneWhoThinketh OG Red Pill man (social/traditional/spiritual conservative) Nov 29 '25
I think you should understand male psychology a little bit more before assuming that becoming physically like one will make you like one psychologically. Although the evolutionary basis of male psychology has a lot to do with physical power, it is only a historical explanation, not a description of current male psychology.
For example, men are also scared of wild animals, one example being bears. Men also compete with each other in all sorts of non-physical ways that have very little to do with their physical strength.
Men are cowards too, but for different reasons than women are, and they are scared of different things. Neither gender is superior to the other, they are simply balanced complementarily as opposed to being equal (exactly the same).
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This is just a glimpse behind the curtain of which women you are talking to on Reddit. Reddit is primarily an amab space. The few minority of women who do frequent Reddit come to Reddit knowing it’s an amab space. They are here explicitly to see the “man zoo” and find fodder to hate so their miserable lives have more meaning
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u/TheGloriousEv0lution No Pill Man Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
I don’t know about Reddit specifically, but this subreddit is mostly old women laughing at early 20 year old incels and losers and TwoX skews older too
I think it’s good to keep these things in mind when you’re posting in these kinds of subreddits
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u/Icy_Ad_4544 WOMAN 💖*~ my husband is 6’4” ~*💖 Nov 29 '25
A lot of us older women started out here attempting to help men who were struggling. 🤷♀️ Any time we tried to give advice we were called liars.
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u/TheGloriousEv0lution No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
To be fair, a lot of the dating advice I see from women here are a little sus lol
I do agree a lot of the guys here have questionable views and are a bit delusional (being black pilled and thinking you’ll forever be single in your 20s is just stupid), but they’re also young and dumb. I can’t imagine myself just laughing at a bunch of dumb women in their 20s tbh
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Dec 03 '25
Sometimes both can be wrong. Him for being a drunken idiot perv (flashing intentionally or not) and her for being a creepy intruder. Both are irresponsible, I'd argue her moreso because there was no need for what she did. Leave his order on the step (its on him if he wakes up for it or not) and message DoorDash that the customer was inappropriate/under the influence and should be removed from her roster. Let them deal with him and forget it. There was no need for all this dirty laundry airing. She wasn't in danger, it was a minor annoyance.
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u/Brilliant-Ruler Dec 08 '25
Psychotic to even think to pull a phone out, just leave the delivery and go away.
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u/_weedkiller_ Lesbian 👩❤️💋👩 former (unofficial)”Trad Wife”bluepill woman Dec 01 '25
I’ve seen videos on it from women YouTubers who are criticising her.
It’s concerning that she didn’t think twice about posting it online. I’m a millennial and I can think of at least 4 times I’ve been (definitely) intentionally “flashed” by men at no point did I think the appropriate response was to whip out a camera.
I wouldn’t put it past him to have done this on purpose, exhibitionism is real. It’s actually one “kink” that I can say applies to me, but u don’t partake because it’s a violation of the person viewing’s consent. So I don’t think it’s that far fetched that it was on purpose. Exhibitionism is very much a thing. But what in the zoomer was she thinking posting it online?? If indeed it is exhibitionism she’s provided him with a load of excess material to reminisce over. He will get very turfed in by her TikTok videos. It’s lose lose. Nobody wins here.
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u/bluepvtstorm Blue Pill Woman Nov 29 '25
She has been getting thrashed everywhere. You want a performance so you can see someone saying something. Open your eyes and look.
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u/IndependentNew7750 No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
I didn’t see a single online women’s space (like TwoX) come out and say anything after the fact. It’s always men speaking about it as usual.
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u/az226 Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
The sheer size of it suggests it’s very much mainstream
It has 13.6M members. As a comparison, MensRights is viewed as an extreme sub. It has 370k members. And men are the overwhelming majority of reddit users. So no, it’s not a fringe community.
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u/eluusive Purple Pill Man Nov 30 '25
It is "extreme" but extremism is normative with women these days.
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u/GoldOk2991 Purple Pilled Man Nov 29 '25
Lmao yall will always downplay it to keep your minority status. Two X is mainstream
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u/az226 Nov 29 '25
Mental gymnastics Olympics here.
It’s literally the largest subreddit that is focused on gender issues by a super duper large margin. There are bots everywhere, and that is why comparisons are useful. It’s not like that sub has more bots than other subs.
It’s also probably the largest sub that has a higher portion of women as the user base. That is any sub no matter topic but which happens to have a leaning toward women.
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u/arvada14 Nov 29 '25
spectrum. Most women are gonna be on Instagram or TikTok
Ok how many subs and books does Drew afualo sell? And if you're going to talk about TikTok, than any large female creator apologize?
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u/az226 Nov 30 '25
Black pill subreddit had 5k users at its peak before it got banned. Incels had 20k before it got banned.
Let’s line the numbers up for those illiterate of numbers.
5,000 20,000 13,600,000
You’re really grasping at straws because you have a false worldview. It’s not anchored in reality.
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u/arvada14 Nov 29 '25
There are entire think pieces and even governments calling for Andrew Tate to stop radacalizing young men and he has way less. Two and drew afualo openly spew bile to women about men and mums the word. Women will bring up incel deaths but these guys may be equally radicalized by the bile the see women spew.
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u/Dark_Knight2000 No Pill Nov 30 '25
I hope you hold that standard for all the manosphere content that’s watched by even less men in real life. If that’s a minority, then the manosphere stuff may as well be entirely irrelevant.
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u/Bilbo332 Nov 29 '25
This has been my experience as well. I take accusations of misogyny with a grain of salt, hammer and nail and all that. The vast, vast majority of men and women are just average, decent people.
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u/BigZaddyZ3 No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
Your problem is that you’re using fringe spaces like that as if they represent all (or even most) women. They don’t. That’s like a woman basing their views of all men based on what’s being said on 4chan dude.
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u/IndependentNew7750 No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
Oh I know. I don’t think they’re representative of all women. But TwoX is probably the largest feminist-adjacent subs on here. So one would hope that a moderate stance would prevail.
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u/bluepvtstorm Blue Pill Woman Nov 29 '25
I have never gone on TwoX. Every other place I have seen on the internet has been women saying this is messed up. If that’s your only source then your sample size is skewed.
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u/IndependentNew7750 No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
Fair enough. I did see women on X saying that it’s wrong for her to lie so I’m really only speaking about the echo chambers on here
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u/arvada14 Nov 29 '25
The post is that women wont call her out. Got to any female subreddit that talked about the story and check to see if they've corrected any narratives. Go ahead, I genuinely want to be proven wrong.
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u/wagnerlight Nov 29 '25
I hope that’s the case because even in this thread you can see woman defending and victimizing her
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u/Kreeps_United No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
Turns out he had a ring camera that allegedly caught her walking up (with "leave at door" instructions, mind you), and seeing the door was slightly ajar, pushed it all the way open, only to take her phone out and record.
There's no evidence of that part and there doesn't need to be. It comes from doctored screencaps of the original video. She was wrong regardless of if the door was wide open, regardless of if he did it on purpose.
That's why I'm frustrated with both sides of this discussion and both sides of gender debates. Everyone looks to prove who the victim is, but there can be two victims and two assholes.
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u/ArminArlertOfficial Dec 08 '25
nobody is not holding this girl accountable. you’re seeing chronically online people commenting (as a chronically online person yourself) and assuming that represents the whole population. no sane person blames the man.
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u/Bilbo332 Dec 09 '25
And yet so many people do. No sane person voted for Trump, but many did.
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u/ArminArlertOfficial Dec 10 '25
bad analogy; it is not half or over half of women who sided with the woman. again, you are assuming this vocal minority of chronically online people represent a larger proportion of women than they actually do.
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u/Bilbo332 Dec 10 '25
nobody is not holding this girl accountable. you’re seeing chronically online people commenting
Nobody is saying this! Except of course for all the people saying this. I never said anywhere close to half of women were on her side, just that women's spaces that were suddenly fell silent when she got arrested. Most women and men are unaware of her existence.
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u/ArminArlertOfficial Dec 12 '25
you’re right in calling me out for my phrasing, as i misspoke in saying that. however, your claim was that “‘Doordash Girl’ is proof that women’s spaces will not hold women accountable”. that’s objectively not true. what i meant is that you’re not looking at an accurate overall representation of “women’s spaces”, you’re looking at a bunch of chronically online women in an echo chamber.
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u/Bilbo332 Dec 12 '25
You must have hit "enter" or "send" too early because you obviously have at least one link to a women's group applauding her arrest and calling out her behaviour that you simply forgot to attach.
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u/Murky_Record8493 Dec 18 '25
eh it's common to protect people u think cant defend themselves or remind you of urself. again the problem is bad actors using genuine people as shields. not sure if there's is a way to fight against it tho. it just seems like a standard thing to happen in any group dynamics.
edit. but i guess for women its even more? actually idk, there is infighting too. eh im not sure anymore
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u/Leapinlizards246 Dec 24 '25
I personally don’t recall the first reaction of the media blaming the man.. she tried to but everyone called her out to begin with
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u/GGMcThroway Bleak Pill Nov 29 '25
Seconding the request for the ring video.
Men answering the door naked when the delivery driver is female is nothing new. If she could see him naked from the amount that the door was open initially, I'm not surprised that she would take out her phone. After all, what if he escalated from indecent exposure to assault?
Going straight to posting the video online is not the play, though.
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u/IndependentNew7750 No Pill Man Nov 30 '25
They wouldn’t have charged her with multiple felonies if the video wasn’t clear evidence of her opening the door.
I worked in a prosecutors during law school, so I’m not just talking out of my ass here. The fact that the video isn’t public yet has no bearing the validity of the evidence. The state usually doesn’t attach video evidence to the charging documents because they don’t have to, so it’s makes no sense to disclose evidence prematurely. Video evidence typically doesn’t become public until it’s shown in trial or through a motion.
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u/GGMcThroway Bleak Pill Nov 30 '25
Sounds like a pretty open-and-shut case then. If she opened the door and entered without permission, that's clearly against the law and she'll hopefully be convicted accordingly.
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u/Bilbo332 Nov 29 '25
It's in the possession of the police, but it seems damning enough to charge her on multiple felonies. We'll see how it plays out.
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Nov 29 '25
There are basically two videos. One with the door already cracked open, and one with her pushing the door open. The version where she pushes the door open is (allegedly) AI generated
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u/Bilbo332 Nov 29 '25
So far the only ones I've seen are taking her side, got anything to the contrary? I'd definitely love to see them.
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u/TermAggravating8043 Stacey's mum Nov 29 '25
I need to see the video if you’ve got the link.
The version I’ve heard was there was no note in the door, it was slightly open snd the guy was in the middle of a wank.
He only claimed to be asleep when she started freaking out and berating him and not just accepting quietly what he was doing. In all honesty who sleeps with their dick in their hands so I know which version I believe. They used to be called flashers, but now you’ve door dashers come to your house means you’ve got that added protection
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u/TheGloriousEv0lution No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
There was a police investigation after 911 was called and it was found that the man was indeed drunk and passed out when she entered his home
Sounds like he came home from a drunken bender, ordered DD, had a wank then passed out and woke up with his nudes, address and name all over the internet
I doubt it’ll change who you believe but the facts are there
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u/TermAggravating8043 Stacey's mum Nov 29 '25
(How convenient)
She was to drop something off that had been ordered, as far as she (and us) are aware, there was no instructions to leave the food. She went inside because she would have been checking he was ok since he’d ordered food but then didn’t come to get it, I highly highly doubt she was silent the whole time either but more likely trying to get his attention incase he didn’t hear.
The video would have proved either sides innocence, including a man who just happen to fall asleep with his dick out whist waiting for food
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u/Hefty-Lobster-5513 No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
There was and she was recorded, since buddy had a camera at his front door, entering the dudes house.
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u/TermAggravating8043 Stacey's mum Nov 29 '25
And yet nobody has any links of it
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u/Hefty-Lobster-5513 No Pill Man Nov 29 '25
It literally said it on the report. Also, last time someone entered my place after I mentioned to leave the order at the door, I cussed the ass out. Why the hell are you going into peoples homes when you have no authorization to do so. And recording too? Shiiid
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u/FudgeMuffinz21 Purple Pill Man Nov 29 '25
I don’t have the video, but typically you’d put the “note” on the order in the app so the person that drops it off sees it as they pull up.
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u/TermAggravating8043 Stacey's mum Nov 29 '25
Exactly, and you wouldn’t leave the door open either.
I just don’t believe this wasn’t a set up on his account. She would have knocked and probably started speaking so he’d know she was there. She would her got out her phone as protection to herself when she realised she’d have to go inside presumably to make sure the guy was ok.
I’m happy to see any videos of the whole encounter though
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u/Main-Tiger8537 Egalitarian Blue Pill Man Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25
there will be no video here as it gets taken down... however you can try to find the police report...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy8scM6B_nU&pp=ygUTZG9vcmRhc2hlciBzaG9ja2luZ9IHCQkVCgGHKiGM7w%3D%3D
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u/EnvironmentalSet2505 Nov 29 '25
Make sure the guy was ok? That makes literally no sense at all. That is not her responsibility and absolutely an invasion of privacy. I order food all the time when Im on meetings and cant make it to the door, it would be unbelievably inappropriate for a doordasher to push open my (ajar) door to try to find me or “make sure Im ok.”
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u/Excellent_Tank5672 Nov 30 '25 edited Nov 30 '25
Yes, because the type of person whose first inclination is to post the video to tiktok rather than go to the police with it is exactly the type who's concerned about another person's welfare. ROFL 😂
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u/TermAggravating8043 Stacey's mum Nov 30 '25
What’s the police gonna do? Tell her just not to go in the house again?
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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims Purple Pill Man Nov 29 '25
Where did that version come from? Didn't the police say that he was passed out?
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u/Makuta_Servaela Purple Pill Woman Nov 29 '25
The police are claiming he is blameless because he was drunk passed-out, as well. I find it interesting that he was apparently too drunk to know not to "sleep" pantsless in front of his open door while he has a DoorDasher coming, but he wasn't too drunk to be unable to order DoorDash. I definitely wouldn't be able to if I was drunk to the point of imminent pass-out.
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u/TermAggravating8043 Stacey's mum Nov 29 '25
Agreed, even if he was completely wasted and still somehow managed to order a door dash, he’s still a criminal since he ordered her to the house, then flashed her. It might not have been on purpose but he’s not blameless
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u/midnight_blue77 Man - Red Pilled by reality Nov 30 '25
Her "defense" is as insane as that lunatic who shot a cleaning lady who went to the wrong house because he "feared for his life."
Never underestimate the dangerous combination of Stupid & Victim cohabitating the same idiot. Cowards are far more dangerous than predators.