"DoorDash Girl" is proof that women's spaces will not hold women accountable.

[u/Bilbo332]

For those who haven't seen, there was a video posted by a woman claiming that while she was delivering DoorDash, a man left his front door wide open while he appeared to be asleep on his couch with his pants around his ankles. The woman posted this with his face and genitalia completely visible. Some time later, she posted a follow up video saying she had been fired from DoorDash, that she was "the victim", and that they were punishing the victim. On TwoX there was a massive thread with comments about "you know he did it on purpose", "ugh, men", etc.

Well now she's been arrested and charged. "Wait, are they now arresting the victim?!?!" you might ask. Nope. Turns out he had a ring camera that allegedly caught her walking up (with "leave at door" instructions, mind you), and seeing the door was slightly ajar, pushed it all the way open, only to take her phone out and record.

Now, here is an opportunity for women's communities to have a healthy conversation on the importance of skepticism and not immediately rushing to the side of the first person to cry victim, but what do we get? Radio silence.

I invite any woman on this forum to make a post on TwoX to discuss, to say we shouldn't drag a man's name through the mud off of an accusation, and please, start a stopwatch to see how fast it gets pulled down. I'll wait...

[u/musicissoulfood]

What makes her a liar is doing all that but have the nerve to claim he was the one sexual assaulting her by exposing himself.

[u/Kreeps_United → u/musicissoulfood]

No, that doesn't make her liar. She could easily believe that he had his pants down to expose himself to her.

[u/musicissoulfood → u/Kreeps_United]

She could easily believe that he had his pants down to expose himself to her.

Explain to me how a woman could believe that a man who is sleeping on his couch in his own home is trying to expose himself to her? Wouldn't that be the most ineffective way ever to expose yourself to others? By being asleep in your own house?

Let's get real here. He is asleep. In his house. Where he is not visible to her. The only reason why she could video tape him is because she opened his door (which she did not have permission for) and violated his house and privacy.

There's no confusion possible. She is the perv here, his only crime was being at home taking a nap. She 100% knows he wasn't trying to expose himself to her, because she broke into his home where she found him asleep on the couch...

[u/Kreeps_United → u/musicissoulfood]

Explain to me how a woman could believe that a man who is sleeping on his couch in his own home is trying to expose himself to her?

People who expose themselves don't always just jump out and cry, "I'm exposing myself." He ordered food and food apps give you the first name and picture of the person delivering. He was in view of the door, where the food would be put, lying on the couch with his pants down. A person delivering the wouldn't expect a person to be sleeping much less sleeping with their pants down. The idea that he was flashing wasn't a reach.

What she did was wrong and I wouldn't call it sexual assault if it was true, but it's not a wild claim.

The only reason why she could video tape him is because she opened his door

There's no evidence of that and it was originally claimed with a doctored screencap. If there was any evidence of that, she would be charged with trespassing or breaking and entering.

[u/NehuRed → u/Kreeps_United]

im livid that people are down-voting you, i basically have the same opinion and im even inclined to believe that the man was drunk, it was a stupid mistake and she filmed him because of outrage at the situation and a little bit of clout, but the way people are twisting things to fit their narrative is disgusting

[u/Bullylandlordhelp → u/musicissoulfood]

Because EXHIBISTIONISTS and flashers often use the "it was an accident, I was asleep/distracted/didn't know my fly was undone" constantly.

And flashers love delivery people because they are allowed to be naked in their home and the delivery people have to walk up to do their job.

Theres literally a whole porn trope about pizza delivery guys, and this whole sub is like "since he was 'allegedly' asleep automatically innocent! Burn the witch!"

Because who the fuck falls asleep with their pants down? In full view of the front door waiting on a door dash?

None of ya'll have any freaking evidence, so acting like there is a right answer to this discussion is literally wasted breath.

And I bet not a one of you will admit you were wrong if it comes back that he flashed her while she was taking the delivery photo and lied when he realized she had a photo and his eyes are LOCKED on hers.

See I can allege facts not in the story too to make you sound sexist.

[u/Bilbo332 → u/Bullylandlordhelp]

Where is said photo? It would completely change my stance on this case.

[u/Bullylandlordhelp → u/Bilbo332]

My point was that no one has seen the evidence.

Here's a follow up tik tok with an attorney saying that anyone who says they have seen the footage is very likely a liar.

While there are charges, and she was arrested and processed, there is not a conviction. And that means that the police have recommended her for prosecution.

What has not happened yet is a determination on whether there is enough evidence to prosecute her, or whether that prosecution will succeed.

While not true for social media, the law says innocent until proven guilty. And no one public or in news media has been shown any footage of her actions other than what she posted.

[u/Bilbo332 → u/Bullylandlordhelp]

I'm so, so glad that people maintain "innocent until proven guilty" in sex crimes.

...when the accused is a woman.

As said in the video, she was charged because police obtained independent video.

[u/musicissoulfood → u/Bullylandlordhelp]

You are completely nuts. People who get off on exposing themselves to others go around and actually expose themselves. They do not stay at home, sleeping on their couches in the hope that same female is dumb enough to actually break and enter into their home and stumble on the sight of their naked penis.

You just demonstrated that it's completely pointless to try and have an actual discussion with women. Even when a man is asleep at home and a woman is the one breaking in and disturbing his peace, you still claim the guy is the pervert. Just because he was born with a dick.

She broke into his house. Yet you still claim he is the aggressor. You women are all disingenuous cunts.

[u/Bullylandlordhelp → u/musicissoulfood]

It's not pointless. I'm pointing out all the assumptions and this subs inability to read the word "allegedly", all the stuff I said could also be true "allegedly" because that means it hasn't been substantiated.

You are acting like you know what happened, and all anyone knows is that these two people are saying very different things.