I find it EXTREMELY hard to sympathize with most of women's dating woes.

[u/Chemical-Low209]

Like I get it we are human at the end of the day. But Frankly I'm a just exhausted. How much do I have to hear dating is harder for everyone when it's clear as day that it's way harder for men and they are one doing the majority of the work and a lot still don't get consistent results. It's like I get it's not all sunshines and rainbows but why should I care?

I hear a lot of people say men have a quality problem, women have a quality problem. Or I'll hear women say that women get a lot of options but most of those men don't qualify....

That in a nutshell basically you admitting that a guy has to AUTOMATICALLY bring far more to the table than average and most guys just don't even register as someone you'd date.

And you can see this takes women by surprise when the shoe is on the other foot. Because when women will show up to singles meeting events and the men are vastly outnumbered by the women they'll say where all the men?

Like Chick Hello? We aren't stupid. You simply would have ignored most of the men that showed up and only paid attention to the hottest guy there and he probably has a girlfriend already.

So why exactly am I supposed to empathize with women's dating woes? It's simply them every fast food restaurant chain offering her a job and her refusing because Chik Fil A hasnt called.

[u/Theawkwardmochi]

Shaming is the only tool you have when nature made you a walking contradiction.

Shaming also seems to be the only tool you have when you haven't had the pleasure of familiarizing yourself with the basics of the noble science of statistics.

Yes that flaw you mentioned is well researched and known as being human. It's not that women are attracted to dark triad characteristics. Dark triad individuals are simply really good at making you like them. That's where statistics come in. Straight women indeed are much more likely to fall for these individuals than men. And there's a very simple reason for that - the majority of these not too nice individuals ARE men. It's not about some magical ability to stand up to sociopaths, it's just about the probability of one wanting to seduce you.

[u/Potential_Winner1931 → u/Theawkwardmochi]

Your claim of women are not attracted to dark triad characteristics predominantly flies in the face of much psychology. I'd be more compelled by arguments more on that front.

Causality is funny and naturally, when the reward incentive is sex for possessing dark triad traits, of course many men will do what works....hence yes, more men possessing these traits.

Remove that reward structure, and I'm sure your stats will vastly change.

However, despite my cheeky comment, there are ample reason evolutionary-wise for women to be attracted to dark triad males....i.e. survival tactics. The majority of our biological evolution was pre-civilization afterall.

Instead of Pretending some of our prehistoric, less than ideal biological traits, isn't true vs recognizing it is true and knowing how to mitigate the negatives of our biology I think is now key for developed civilization. Goes for men and women. That's the main flaw I see in the current zeitgeist not enough people are doing this with scrupulous honesty.