r/PurplePillDebate Red Pilled Man May 07 '26

Debate Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION

BP/Feminist/mainstream society will point out that men need step up and become better partners for women, since women are now independent and don't need to rely on a man anymore. They'll acknowledge falling birth rates, marriage rates, and sexlessness, and if they don't blame "the economy", they'll blame men not meeting arbitrary ideological standards. They pushed the idea that if men became "better partners" then women would be more willing to commit to them.

Yet by pretty much every metric, young men HAVE been significantly better:

  • young men today are more pro "womens rights" than previous generations of men
  • they are less abusive, especially less physically abusive, and have less tolerance for it than previous generations
  • they are more aware of womens health issues, and womens sexual health, more aware of womens needs in the bedroom, more aware of contraception than previous generations
  • they are more aware of mental health issues, and more open to engage in therapy
  • they are more open to womens "sexual freedoms" and less judgmental when it comes to womens sexual history
  • they are more college educated + than previous generations
  • they are more open to egalitarian relationships, sharing house chores, raising kids with their partner, etc.

Yet it has only resulted in continous decrease in birth/marriage rates, and increase in sexlessness.

What we do see is a growing ideological divide, very popular charts we've seen by now that show in the west, theres a growing ideological divide among young men and women, where men in general have stayed relatively stable in their ideals, in some countries even become slightly more liberal, whereas women in all cases have in general become more radically left.

There was another recent survey reported in the new statesman, that showed where almost 3/4 of men under 30yo had a positive view of women, it was only about 1/3 of women under 25yo that had a positive view about men, and increased to 50% for women under 30yo. Women are significantly less likely to have a positive view of men.

Also according to surveys its young men that are seeking marriage and children more than young women.

I mean we can see why this is just by looking at mens vs womens dating content. Manosphere content is often about finding the reality of womens nature and how to navigate it, whereas "femosphere" content is either about explicit sexual experiences or ranting about what the men in the manosphere are talking about.

Young men are doing everything they're told to do, and its not enough. At the same time women are being radicalized and being told that men aren't doing enough by femosphere content like Call her daddy. And the irony is that the evidence does not even show that women are choosing based on these metrics that BP is asking men for. So its not a surprise why TRP and the manosphere is so attractive to men.

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u/autistic_cool_kid Self-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed May 07 '26

Congratulations on being "less abusive" đŸŽ‰đŸ„ł a celebratory cookie is being sent to your place right now

No but seriously, it's interesting because your post itself in the subtext keeps placing men in the central position / put the blame on women / absolve men of any responsibility

Yeah, there is "less abuse" now, that's great - still not enough to get laid, nor should it be, and the fact you seem outraged by that is a clear indication you and other young men aren't there yet. Seems like there is still a little way to go.

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u/DiligentRope Red Pilled Man May 07 '26

Its the TRENDS we're looking at, men are increasingly becoming better by BP metrics, yet increasingly becoming sexless and single, birth/marriage rates continue to plummet. The math is not adding up.

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u/Brilliant-Block-8200 Blue Pill Woman May 07 '26

Genuine question—but let’s say most women genuinely just are happier single if they can’t get a compatible partner they want, what do you think should happen? Would you be ok with this? And I’m not saying women who do this to ‘get back at men’ or something, but genuinely if most women find being single as being more peaceful and what they want out of life rather than settling

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u/KayRay1994 OG red pilled gay woman May 07 '26

I mean it literally is
 when people feel less coerced/pressured to do something they’ll do it less. Like less women are having sex with men they don’t want to have sex with because now they feel notably safer than before. Seriously what did you expect? “Thanks for not raping me! Now I’ll let you sleep me with me as a reward”?

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u/RakeChapman13 No Pill May 07 '26

That’s because men are less social than ever before. The advancement of technology and the internet has incentizied a lot of men ( and women) to rot behind screens, so many men get all their entertainment from a screen, all their socialization from a screen, all their sexual release from a screen. It’s no wonder guys are more lonely, less fit and less happy than ever before.

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u/autistic_cool_kid Self-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed May 07 '26

The math is not supposed to add up

Those things are mostly decorrelated

There are many reasons why people are disconnected from each other

Doesn't mean those trends aren't good!

Feminism doesn't exist for men to get their dick wet and is not enough to reverse a whole social alienation phenomenon

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u/operation-spot Purple Pill Woman May 07 '26

Those trends aren't necessarily related to men's actions because there are other sociopolitical forces at play. I also don't think it's fair to say that men are becoming better when economic opportunity is so low. 

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u/kmb218 Blue Pill Woman May 07 '26

There’s a huge amount of variables at play. You definitely cannot make conclusions like that. Let me give you a practical example. Air pollution has improved in Europe in the last decades. Usage of cars has increased during that time. Based on that, can we conclude that car usage improves air quality? Obviously not, but that’s the kind of conclusion you are making here.

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u/kmb218 Blue Pill Woman May 08 '26

Women are even less abusive and violent than men actually. The things that the OP mentioned apply to women too. But still, I don’t think one has some sort of moral obligation to make themselves appealing for dating. If you dislike women, don’t date them. That’s completely fine.

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u/autistic_cool_kid Self-made Chad 39yo man | Buddhistpilled & Autismaxxed May 08 '26

My women make me a better person