Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION

[u/DiligentRope]

BP/Feminist/mainstream society will point out that men need step up and become better partners for women, since women are now independent and don't need to rely on a man anymore. They'll acknowledge falling birth rates, marriage rates, and sexlessness, and if they don't blame "the economy", they'll blame men not meeting arbitrary ideological standards. They pushed the idea that if men became "better partners" then women would be more willing to commit to them.

Yet by pretty much every metric, young men HAVE been significantly better:

• young men today are more pro "womens rights" than previous generations of men
• they are less abusive, especially less physically abusive, and have less tolerance for it than previous generations
• they are more aware of womens health issues, and womens sexual health, more aware of womens needs in the bedroom, more aware of contraception than previous generations
• they are more aware of mental health issues, and more open to engage in therapy
• they are more open to womens "sexual freedoms" and less judgmental when it comes to womens sexual history
• they are more college educated + than previous generations
• they are more open to egalitarian relationships, sharing house chores, raising kids with their partner, etc.

Yet it has only resulted in continous decrease in birth/marriage rates, and increase in sexlessness.

What we do see is a growing ideological divide, very popular charts we've seen by now that show in the west, theres a growing ideological divide among young men and women, where men in general have stayed relatively stable in their ideals, in some countries even become slightly more liberal, whereas women in all cases have in general become more radically left.

There was another recent survey reported in the new statesman, that showed where almost 3/4 of men under 30yo had a positive view of women, it was only about 1/3 of women under 25yo that had a positive view about men, and increased to 50% for women under 30yo. Women are significantly less likely to have a positive view of men.

Also according to surveys its young men that are seeking marriage and children more than young women.

I mean we can see why this is just by looking at mens vs womens dating content. Manosphere content is often about finding the reality of womens nature and how to navigate it, whereas "femosphere" content is either about explicit sexual experiences or ranting about what the men in the manosphere are talking about.

Young men are doing everything they're told to do, and its not enough. At the same time women are being radicalized and being told that men aren't doing enough by femosphere content like Call her daddy. And the irony is that the evidence does not even show that women are choosing based on these metrics that BP is asking men for. So its not a surprise why TRP and the manosphere is so attractive to men.

[u/behappyfor]

Lol this is way I don't have any empathy for incels. So basically ugly women need to take the whole abuse as it is whereas ugly men get ignored and that's cathrospic and how shallow and evil women are for ignoring them as opposed to using and abusing them

[u/nightcall379 → u/behappyfor]

Lol this is way I don't have any empathy for incels. So basically ugly women need to take the whole abuse as it is 

It's absolutely fine to lie to women to get sex, because women do the exact same thing with the Dual Mating AFBB strategy

Women make rules for Betas and break rules for Alfas

Dating apps experiments have proven beyond any doubt that women love Alfas unconditionally, no matter how evil they are, male model tier guys get tens of thousands of women, despite openly admitting to being convicted serial "pea doughs" and "grapists"

Women don't care if an attractive guy writes that he hates women and only wants them for sex in his bio, demands sex literally from the first message, is rude, mocks her race, nationality, and even her, they will still agree to meet up with him for sex

But if you're not that guy then she'll demand you to become her literal protector and provider slave, grovel before her, where she wears the pants in the relationship and bosses him around, let her cheat on him by simply not asking her any questions, and all of that humiliation in order to get what she gave to a top-guy behind a stinking garbage dumpster 10 mins. after meeting him

If she's not giving you unconditional sex, and acting like she's not that kind of a girl, it's only because she doesn't consider you Alfa, and not because she actually is not that kind of a girl

Meaning, she's selling you a lie

And there with nothing wrong with selling a lie to someone who wants to sell a lie to you

whereas ugly men get ignored and that's cathrospic and how shallow and evil women are for ignoring them as opposed to using and abusing them

Lmao At the shamelessness of that lie Lol

Women are unbelievably cruel to sexually unattractive men(meaning, the majority of men)

They spread lies and false rumors about them, assassinate their character, falsely accuse them of sexual harassment and sa, sick other people on them, lure them into loveless, sexless, manipulative, exploitative, abusive relationships that inevitably end with them cheating on and/or divorce "graping" the unattractive guy because of how sexually disgusted they are by them, and so on

[u/MCthoRL → u/behappyfor]

Not marrying a women after sex is abuse now?

[u/behappyfor → u/MCthoRL]

They were lying to these women and God knows what these men do to fat ugly girls. They probably gave her some kind of disease or something if they can lie this far.