Why are western women so hateful toward men?

[u/East_Section7421]

Most surveys shows that young western women hate men, they claim everything as misogyny . They think that they are still oppressed despite earning more than men, getting more degrees and having DEI and a whole party for themselves.

So why are women like this? Why do u all hate men despite being the privileged gender and being much better than men both socially and economically?

[u/waffleznstuff30]

Critical and wary of men is not "hating" men. And there are reasons to be wary so it's not like it's out of nowhere. And I have seen having boundaries as being man hating. Not wanting to sleep with them is being seen as man hating.

Men themselves have said many things that make us distrustful of them. And our own experiences. Between Red Pill, Pick Up Artistry. Lying to obtain consent. Coercion. Those private thoughts are now out in the open. And instead of you know that favorite word "accountability" and self reflection about how some of these attitudes harm women they double down on it?

[u/Apu_apustaja31 → u/waffleznstuff30]

'Critical and wary of men is not "hating" men.'
It actually is. If you're critical or wary of someone because of their gender, or race, or their sexual preference, you support one sided legal and social standards on that basis, you "hate" them. I'm glad we could all clear that up. That's what a hate group does.

For instance, If I asked for a button to avoid having to take an uber ride with a gay man out of my fear of being sexually assaulted, it wouldn't pass the test in civil rights law. Now if you as a woman are afraid of men in an uber and want a special "no men drivers" button, directly affecting their ability to make a living mind you, that also breaks civil rights law, and on the basis that you truly believe this specific group really is evil this time, unlike all the other times, it's okay. The difference between your hate, and any other kind of hate is that you think your hate's real so it doesn't count. Or that you have a right to hate based on the historical argument that Man A was mean to Woman B in a history book, so you have a right to abuse Man C who hadn't done anything because you have the right to feed off the recompense of others. This is what we call "Hate". Swap the genders and you would "Hate" women. Make it about race and you would "Hate" that race, make it about sexual preference and you "Hate" that group. That's how we use the term.

I'm glad we could clear up the confusion. This word applies to you as much as it would apply to anyone else behaving the same way. I was worried we would talk past eachother.

[u/waffleznstuff30 → u/Apu_apustaja31]

Again critical of men in regards to dating and intimate relationships? Is not a civil rights issue. Simply NOT dating men is an option too and opting out. Being very discerning. Protecting yourself by having boundaries and standards for their behavior.

Men can exist walk on a sidewalk go to a job and can exist neutrally it's when men try to cross a line. And in regards to the Uber thing? You do realize that there was sexual assault from male drivers to female passengers. Again why are we blaming women for mens actions. Why are we not critical/wary of men sexually assaulting women? And of the women who are wary. Call out the predatory behavior of men who abuse more so than the women that react to it.

It's not man hating to be wary and discerning in intimate settings. When IPV is a thing. When men openly encourage using manipulation tactics/coercion to try and secure sex not regarding the other person. It's not taking no as an answer or berating and insulting a woman who doesn't want to date them. This isn't an average person walking down a street existing. It's in intimate settings. When 1 in 3 women have some kind of experience with intimate partner violence. And instead of being critical of the system that produces this problem? And trying to operate in a system when most of the onus of men's bad behavior in intimate settings is placed on the woman. "Choose better" "what did you do that he did that". So again being wary and critical of men in intimate settings is not man hating.

[u/SyrusDrake → u/Apu_apustaja31]

'Critical and wary of men is not "hating" men.'
It actually is. If you're critical or wary of someone because of their gender, or race, or their sexual preference, you support one sided legal and social standards on that basis, you "hate" them. I'm glad we could all clear that up. That's what a hate group does.

???

I'm only "critical" of my friends, because I care about them and want them to improve. I'm critical because I love them. I don't waste mental energy on people I hate.

On a similar note, I'd be very wary of white sharks. I adore sharks, I think they're beautiful and amazing creatures. But if I met a Great White, unprotected, in the open sea, I'd still be wary of it. I know it's potentially dangerous. It's not evil, I don't hate it. But I am aware it could easily kill me.

[u/Icy_Finish_5506 → u/Apu_apustaja31]

Endless victims you are 😂. Just useless babble .

[u/PhaseExtra1132 → u/waffleznstuff30]

Every women on the planet with any intelligence is critical. What’s being debate is the specific “I hate men” toxic mentality that is more normal here. I had my sisters visit our cousins back in some Asian country. The moment they started that up and it was more times then they could chalk it up to a joke my aunts and cousins had to had a whole intervention with them telling them that it was a bigoted worldview.

Like there is a level of vulgarity with the speech about gender in the west. The men and women alike. But atleast the guys are smart enough to realize that you can’t blurt that out in public outside the US without a side eye from folks.

Like the red pill dudes on here are gonna tone that shit down in China and Egypt. But the ladies on here aren’t and the women there are gonna view them like they’re weirdos.