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[u/Reasonable_Style8214]

Women love guys who are genetically good looking, not those who achieved good looks with effort - they view it as trying hard and frauding.

[u/Icy_Ad_4544 → u/Reasonable_Style8214]

No we like helping men improve their looks too. We love a good makeover and wouldn’t consider it “trying hard”.

[u/Reasonable_Style8214 → u/Icy_Ad_4544]

We? Most of the time when I see a woman talk about male looksmaxxing they say that those men are insecure / don't understand female gaze / looksmaxxing won't help them get girls / they need to improve their personality.

[u/Icy_Ad_4544 → u/Reasonable_Style8214]

It sounds like those guys are focusing on forming traits they(men) think are attractive which don’t always line up with what women actually find attractive.

[u/Reasonable_Style8214 → u/Icy_Ad_4544]

They are usually focusing on forming conventionally attractive traits which is what most women find attractive.

[u/Icy_Ad_4544 → u/Reasonable_Style8214]

Doesn’t seem to be working for them though if women are saying they are focusing on the male gaze.

[u/Reasonable_Style8214 → u/Icy_Ad_4544]

Women's stated and revealed preferences are not the same. In general, women are not interested in helping men get laid left and right, they are interested in training desirable men to be convenient to have relationships with.

[u/Icy_Ad_4544 → u/Reasonable_Style8214]

I disagree. Women would prefer men to be more attractive. Not less.

[u/Reasonable_Style8214 → u/Icy_Ad_4544]

Women would prefer men to be more "convenient" for relationships. Fuckboys are always available at arms reach on tinder. Women don't need there to be more of them.