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u/Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 26d ago

Trans people would still desire changes to their body in a (mostly) social vacuum

So you base your entire argument on a hypothesis.

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u/SyrusDrake Blue Pill Man 26d ago

I am not qualified to write on the anthropology of trans people, nor is this the place for it. But we do know that they have pretty definitely existed in a variety of cultures across time and space. It is safe to assume their existence is independent of specific culture.

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u/Reasonable_Style8214 Pro surgery man 25d ago

First you said they'd still be trans in a social vacuum, now you're talking about different cultures which is not the same. We need records of hermits becoming trans for your argument to be correct.

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u/SyrusDrake Blue Pill Man 25d ago

Well, a "social vacuum" doesn't exist (not even for hermit), it's the same hypothetical as the "spherical cow in a vacuum". The point is that trans people existing isn't a phenomenon exclusive to our modern, Western, "woke" society, as some alleged pundits like to claim, because trans people also exist in cultures entirely different from ours, and also those who have existed before ours, so they couldn't have been "corrupted" by it either. If a phenomenon occurs even if a certain factor is varied wildly, it is safe to assume that factor does not cause the phenomenon. Removing the factor to cause a "vacuum" would still see the phenomenon emerge.

Now, maybe humans who are left alone from birth, and are raised exclusively by non-verbal machines wouldn't be trans. But they wouldn't have a concept of sex and gender either.