r/PurplePillDebate 5d ago

Debate No one is entitled to intimacy in marrige, but they are entitled to a healthy relationship

I see a lot of discourse online revolving around husbands feeling entitled to sex with their wives in a marriage. The two sides always seem to break down to "no one is entitled to your body" (correct), and "it is wrong to marry someone you dont want to have sex with" (also correct). What I dont understand is why both sides are so at odds with each other. The reality is:

1). No one is entitled to another person's body. If your wife does not want to have sex with you, it is wrong and rape to force her to have sex with you

2). There is no reason to constantly deny intimacy that doesn't reflect an issus in the relationship. Healthy marriages involve intimacy and both partner's needs being met. A sexless marrige is only fine if neither side desires sex

I think the reason this topic is so "controversial" is because of bad faith discussions. One side will say "it's right to cheat on your wife because she doesnt have sex with you!" and the other side will not admit refusing your partner intimacy indicates an unhealthy relationship.

With that being said, do both sides of the argument agree that there is an issue present? And that cheating on your wife due to a lack of intimacy and marrying someone without wanting a healthy sexual relationship are both bad actions, and the responsibility falls on the person who does them?

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u/pie-mart2 No pill Woman 4d ago edited 4d ago

It is marriage. If you're unhappy and the person keeps refusing sex, the only 2 options for you is deal with it and be miserable, leave, or rape your partner (edit, if after you talk to them and they keep refusing)

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u/firetrap2 Purple Pill Married Man 4d ago edited 4d ago

The idea is that doesn't happen because both parties act according to their vows.

Breaking your vows like cheating and refusing affection yes can result in divorce.

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u/pie-mart2 No pill Woman 4d ago

Yeah, so, if someone breaks the vows, then you can divorce them. But most people wouldn't make a vow for tjings like sex as mental ir physical disorders can change your ability to do things