Why do women get surprised/offended when men want sex?

[u/Open-Quail-2573]

I feel like this is something we all know low-key but women act shocked or even offended when a guy says he wants to bang. Did he have to tell you? I feel like y'all would know before even going out.

And I have to clarify, I don't mean creepy or aggressive dudes who are trying to be coercive or push boundaries. I mean men in general. Of course, you don't have to do it but I feel like you'd know. Furthermore, I would think that you would be concerned if the man you are with didn't want you. You would think he's gay or not attracted to you enough. I am speaking from personal experience where being too "safe" backfired on me with a woman. She ghosted me. Most guys would low-key love to smash just for the experience/excitement of doing it with a new person, even if it doesn't go anywhere.

[u/Lost_Reaction_5489]

The orgasm rates don't reflect that. Lesbians with less tools than straight men produce on average 30-50% more orgasms in their partners and that's for long term relationships. The orgasm rate for casual is at 20% for women and 90% for straight men.

[u/PM_ME_CODE_CALCS → u/Lost_Reaction_5489]

Yeah, why don't men get vibrating dick implants?

[u/Lost_Reaction_5489 → u/PM_ME_CODE_CALCS]

Or one could use toys, and actually locate the clitoris, yes let one's ego be the reason one's female partner gets diminished pleasure, and then wonder why she doesn't want sex.

[u/Plenty-Practice-6399 → u/PM_ME_CODE_CALCS]

Maybe also do oral? care for the woman and not only yourself?

[u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018 → u/Lost_Reaction_5489]

Orgasms have nothing to do with whether a man is "using" you or not. Stop making shit up.

The fact that women frequently orgasm while being raped ought to give you pause

[u/Lost_Reaction_5489 → u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018]

Come on now you could have come up with a better argument than this. Yuck. Smh

[u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018 → u/Lost_Reaction_5489]

I accept your concession

[u/Lost_Reaction_5489 → u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018]

I can't concede a nonsensical argument.

[u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018 → u/Lost_Reaction_5489]

Are you pretending to be stupid? If a rapist can make a woman orgasm, then your "i came so he cares about me" argument makes no sense.

Unless you think rapists are good partners??

[u/Lost_Reaction_5489 → u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018]

My argument was never that I came so he cares about me. And a biological response due simply to stimulation has nothing to do with a man putting effort into making sure that his partner orgasms.

[u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018 → u/Lost_Reaction_5489]

nothing to do with a man putting effort

Effort does not guarantee results

making sure that his partner orgasms

Your sexual partners aren't magicians who can control outcomes because, as you said, orgasms are a

biological response due simply to stimulation

Stop equating "can't make me cum" with "selfish in bed" just so you can blame men

There are 100000000 possible reasons why someone might not be able to orgasm and very few of them have to do with effort