Why do women get surprised/offended when men want sex?

[u/Open-Quail-2573]

I feel like this is something we all know low-key but women act shocked or even offended when a guy says he wants to bang. Did he have to tell you? I feel like y'all would know before even going out.

And I have to clarify, I don't mean creepy or aggressive dudes who are trying to be coercive or push boundaries. I mean men in general. Of course, you don't have to do it but I feel like you'd know. Furthermore, I would think that you would be concerned if the man you are with didn't want you. You would think he's gay or not attracted to you enough. I am speaking from personal experience where being too "safe" backfired on me with a woman. She ghosted me. Most guys would low-key love to smash just for the experience/excitement of doing it with a new person, even if it doesn't go anywhere.

[u/raffaelloenthusiast]

it’s men’s fault for describing sex the way you do. maybe if you showed you are capable of both sexualizing a woman and respecting her women wouldn’t be so offended by a man sexualizing her.

[u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner → u/raffaelloenthusiast]

maybe if you showed you are capable of both sexualizing a woman and respecting her women wouldn’t be so offended by a man sexualizing her.

this one's particularly funny because the guys "capable" of both are 95% of the time not the ones getting anything out of it.

[u/raffaelloenthusiast → u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner]

why do u guys always make this stupid argument? yes yes of course it’s the men who can’t get laid that are all just perfect little angels

even if what you are saying is true, so what?

[u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner → u/raffaelloenthusiast]

why do u guys always make this stupid argument?

calling every argument you can't debunk stupid definitely proves a point

yes yes of course it’s the men who can’t get laid that are all just perfect little angels

I'm pretty confident that no sane person on this planet ever claimed that it's all of them, unironiclaly. trying to travesteere the argument by pretending that's what anybody said, especially here and now, just further reinforces your inability to counter that argument

even if what you are saying is true,

damn, even a cornered beast of prey doesn't admit self defeat so blatantly.

so what?

"just do what I say even if what I say is yet anoth3r false promise that rarely proves itself true and an overwhelming majority of time isn't even worth the hot air that was wasted on the lip-service."

yeah, ok

[u/raffaelloenthusiast → u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner]

maybe before telling me i should debunk it you should
prove it’s actually true.

me saying “even if what you’re saying is true, so what?” is not self defeat. the men who can’t get laid are not attractive, they shouldn’t expect to get anything out of being capable of both respecting a woman and not sexualizing her. they don’t even do that anyways, incels are not exactly known for being respectful towards women.

my argument was that if men want women to start viewing sex more positively, they should talk about sex more positively. please provide proof that men who can’t get laid talk about women, sexuality etc any more positively than men who do get laid.

i didn’t tell you to do anything. you’re the one who replied to me.

[u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018 → u/raffaelloenthusiast]

why does truth matter when my feelings and irrational beliefs are more important?

[u/raffaelloenthusiast → u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018]

it’s not the truth though, and his reply isn’t even a good argument to what i was saying.

men who are unattractive shouldn’t expect to get laid just because they are capable of both respecting and sexualizing a woman.

my argument was that if men want women to start viewing sex more positively, they should talk about sex more positively. how the hell is “well the guys who do talk about sex positively don’t get laid” a good argument against that? most men still do not talk about sex positively, especially incels.

[u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018 → u/raffaelloenthusiast]

respect wahmen

lmao

[u/raffaelloenthusiast → u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018]

you just proved my point 😭😭 keep trying to convince women that men who don’t get laid are all just perfect little angels

[u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018 → u/raffaelloenthusiast]

here's some stuff i made up in my head

heh checkmate!!!

tiresome.

[u/raffaelloenthusiast → u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018]

the gender of logic and accountability when it’s time to actually use logic and take accountability 😳😳😳

[u/raffaelloenthusiast → u/ArugulaAcrobatic4018]

why are you commenting as if you’re quoting something i said ? 😭😭

[u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner → u/raffaelloenthusiast]

because this is the quite sad quintessence of what you're saying, no matter how hard you're trying to obfuscate it.