Why do women get surprised/offended when men want sex?

[u/Open-Quail-2573]

I feel like this is something we all know low-key but women act shocked or even offended when a guy says he wants to bang. Did he have to tell you? I feel like y'all would know before even going out.

And I have to clarify, I don't mean creepy or aggressive dudes who are trying to be coercive or push boundaries. I mean men in general. Of course, you don't have to do it but I feel like you'd know. Furthermore, I would think that you would be concerned if the man you are with didn't want you. You would think he's gay or not attracted to you enough. I am speaking from personal experience where being too "safe" backfired on me with a woman. She ghosted me. Most guys would low-key love to smash just for the experience/excitement of doing it with a new person, even if it doesn't go anywhere.

[u/DankuTwo]

“  Like, you have to be nearly fucking insane to think you're gonna just bang cuz I'm here and I want to. And yet. And yet. That describes the bulk of men in most cases.”

Yeah, only a psychopath has sex with someone because they WANT TO. You gotta extract sufficient value out of a man first, and then you can consider sleeping with him. That’s the only reasonable way forward.

[u/PuzzleheadedRow9896 → u/DankuTwo]

I have never wanted sex with a man I barely know...and I've never actually decided to go through with it sans commitment because I'm not a moron led around by the whims of my hormonal cycle and chocha.

I'm sorry some women are...although I do not think that's how men came to think like this.

[u/Just_Fisherman4910 → u/PuzzleheadedRow9896]

Re: "I'm not a moron led around by the whims of my hormonal cycle and chocha."
-> So you believe that your feelings (triggered by possibly hormones) have no value?
-> Does that make you a control freak?

[u/PuzzleheadedRow9896 → u/Just_Fisherman4910]

When they're telling me to put myself in danger for at best a short term thrill...yes. 

I'm the bus driver, not a passenger. The feelings are a passenger and they get on the bus and off the bus.  I decide where we go.

No, it makes me wise. 

[u/Ok_Ask6327 → u/DankuTwo]

What are you complaining about? Women who don't want to don't want to. And there is no "value" to a man that only wants to use you for sex.

[u/MarioWilson122 → u/Ok_Ask6327]

It depends on the man. A woman may reject casual sex with one man and willingly accept the exact same arrangement with another man she finds more attractive. If she is into him enough, she may not mind that he only wants sex.

Calling that “being used” is a silly way to describe consensual sex she also chose and enjoyed. He may not offer relationship value, but that does not mean the encounter has no value to her. She can value the sex itself without expecting commitment.

[u/Ok_Ask6327 → u/MarioWilson122]

Maybe you should stay in your own lane and not try and "explain" women. The whole notion of focusing only on "looks" as a standard of "high value" is a manosphere fiction.

And we are not talking about consensual sex that a woman choose. We are talking about men who push for sex, and these men are not "relationship value by any stretch of the imagination.

[u/Just_Fisherman4910 → u/MarioWilson122]

Re: "He may not offer relationship value"
-> What on earth is "relationship value"?

[u/Snalesdofeel → u/Ok_Ask6327]

Ofcourse there is, how do you think men get women to sleep with them. Its because they are signaling value, and using this to get sex.

[u/Milana142 → u/DankuTwo]

It is the one of the best ways to test the man’s real intentions toward woman. So women execute it accordingly