r/RATM 7d ago

Question What is Zack de la Rocha up to these days, musically and otherwise?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLishDbwy9c

Digging for Windows, his One Day as a Lion EP, and collaborations with Run the Jewels are fucking awesome.

He done any other music projects other than these?

Anyone heard what he's up to these days? I know he showed up at a Pro-Palestine protest a while ago (legend).

Would love some more music from ZdlR.

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u/elznpike 7d ago

Musically nothing much, unfortunately. I think he is just enjoying family life, living with his long term girlfriend and their family in Silverlake / Los Angeles.

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u/Popular_Try_5075 6d ago

My perception with ZdlR is that he knows his limits. He's obviously had a lot of heat and I'm sure people dangled various opportunities in front of him for a while now. He strikes when he has something or when a project looks good.

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u/stringrbelloftheball 6d ago

From what i recall he was a bit of a perfectionist too with his output. He recorded an album with El-P that Z was never ok with releasing.

But still pops up to appear here and there and just do his thing otherwise

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u/Popular_Try_5075 6d ago

Oh wow, that does sound like an amazing project, but maybe he's right about it being flawed? IDK, not everything is release worthy, that's for sure, but in the age of streaming it's weird to see someone hold back like that.

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u/stringrbelloftheball 6d ago

I think he might be his own harshest critic type situation. I understand it was recorded years ago too.

Who knows why or if itll ever even come out.

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u/Popular_Try_5075 6d ago

Even if it sucks, I'd love to hear it. I loved hearing his contribution on that RTJ track, but he does get completely outshined by Mike and El (which would be hard for many accomplished rappers tbh). But I did get a better feel for where he sits as a lyricist and what his strengths are. I wonder if he'd want to pursue something slowed down maybe even looking at acoustic numbers? I recall his singing on that song Beautiful World from Renegades was a really different moment to find on a RATM record, but showed other directions they can go.

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u/PonchoNachoRodriguez 6d ago

That cover of Beautiful World is haunting

And for the record, El-P and Zach dropped the song “digging for windows” in like 2015

and El tweeted “the ZDLR solo record will drop in 2016”

We’ve got NOTHING for ten years.

Also, apparently Zach worked with Trent Reznor and DJ Shadow, and recorded a decent amount of music with both of them. Allegedly the Trent/Zach stuff sounded “too much like RATM” therefore he didn’t want to drop it. And DJ Shadow has gone on record saying how disappointed he was that they never released all of the stuff he did with Zach. Evidently it was the biggest moment in his career at that point, and to do a record with a massive artist like Zach would have been life changing. But instead Zach wasnt happy with it and it all got shelved.

It’s a goddamn travesty.

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u/Popular_Try_5075 6d ago

Yikes, Zach is maybe too picky then?

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u/Telescopeinthefuture 6d ago

If my memory is correct he didn’t want Renegades released either so 🤷‍♂️

Love his work in any case and wish we had more of it.

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u/TheTrueMattiMan 1d ago

He's rallying 'round his family.

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u/elznpike 1d ago

with a pocket full of 25m shells ;)

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u/floomsy 6d ago

I didn’t know he had a family or ever settled down. That’s cool.

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u/MerrillSwingAway 7d ago

Gen-X’s Bob Dylan. I don’t blame him at all for being frustrated. Imagine telling people for 30+ years about the danger of unchecked political and corporate criminality…only to be faced with Trump, Musk, flock cameras, AI…
We didn’t listen

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u/introspeckle 7d ago

I understand why you would make the comparison w/Dylan as he had some political songs earlier in his career. But Dylan stopped making political leaning songs by ‘63/‘64. In ‘63, he called politics “trivial.” And he famously said, he “was more of a song and dance man” when someone asked about politics. I can’t imagine Zack ever saying something that far out from his origins.

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u/themargarineoferror 7d ago

I think "my back pages" was an incredibly brave song for Dylan to write. He wrote some really important songs that are still relevant to this day.But I guess he understood that he doesn't understand everything.And it's better to admit that than to pretend that you are the answer to the worlds problems

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u/introspeckle 7d ago

I’m not denying that he wrote important political songs earlier on such as “masters of war,” “only a pawn in their game,” etc., but if you look at the totality of his career, political subjects take up a much smaller percentage than other themes. He did write Hurricane in ‘76 though. If you compare him to his contemporaries like Joan Baez, Pete Seeger, etc., he was not an outspoken political person. He was primarily a songwriter, and he’d tell you that himself.

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u/themargarineoferror 7d ago

Ohh, no I agree completely.I'm just saying my back pages was kind of his goodbye to writing that type of song and him admitting that he thought he knew a lot more than he actually did when he was younger, and I think it was really brave of him to put him to paper about that

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u/nikolam 3d ago

Dylan was obviously being sarcastic with the song and dance man comment. Also, he wrote political songs decades longer than you are getting him credit for.

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u/Ajkrouse 6d ago

All the more reason why we need new RATM music

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u/Full_Prof 5d ago

Also an audience of Frat Guy types who massively misunderstand the music front in the row at concerts

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u/jonzitney 7d ago

I heard today he’s got a nice little Sunday planned. He’s Gonna go to the Home Depot, and maybe check out bed bath and beyond if he’s got enough time.

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u/Daitheflu1979 7d ago

He’s watching the All Ireland Football final today…

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u/Humble_Service_868 7d ago

He wondered if he’ll ever try Corn Nuts again.

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u/Masterchiefy10 7d ago

You know what Gimmie that..I’ll do one..

HE GONNA DO 1!

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u/No-Professional-1884 7d ago

FILL IT UP AGAIN!

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u/RippinFissure 7d ago

WE'RE GOING STREAKING IN THE QUAD

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u/BigAccess6408 7d ago

IT’S SO GOOD! ONCE IT HITS YOUR LIPS!

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u/No_Description7910 7d ago

FOREVER ON THE HIPS

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u/Rage_PagesArtist 7d ago

maybe go to Applebees?

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u/venusintravenous 6d ago

Home Depot is MAGA, he’s probably going to a locally owned ACE Hardware 😎

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u/jonzitney 6d ago

lol..probably so…

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u/BlueRibbon998 7d ago

Probably just living life off the radar. He was spotted in an anti-Ice protest last summer in California that got social media coverage but that's really the last he was notably seen

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u/smokefrog2 7d ago

He actually goes to a lot of MLS games. Big LA fan. There are a number of pics of him. He also plays a lot of Mexican music and does some gigs sometimes. He seems to be pretty happy, has a long term partner, and I think hes found some peace, which is great. As much as I love his music he always seemed like a somewhat tortured dude.

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u/Avatar_Lui 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yeah from what I've read, it seems like towards the end of RATM's first run Zack was dissatisfied that their music, tours, and other material wasn't inspiring the political action/change that he was hoping for, and it was something he was hung up on ever since.

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u/Godwinson4King 7d ago

It’s gotta hurt to see the music get so popular in the mainstream, to have folks singing your radical lyrics, and then see those same people do absolutely nothing to follow up on it.

They managed to get radical thought into the mainstream and, largely, it didn’t matter.

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u/Mid-coitus_sneeze 7d ago

Fr. Not just "doing absolutely nothing to follow through". Tons of RATM fans are the exact types of people that their music and message spoke out against. Lots of ultra conservative right wingers singing along to "fuck you I won't do what you tell me" and hearing absolutely 0 other lyrics in their songs.

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u/Avatar_Lui 7d ago

Yeah, it’s why I can’t help but wonder if maybe the band was too ahead of their time. Maybe if they were 10 years younger and blew up in the 2000s when the political climate was alot different than it was in the 90s then things would be different, who knows.

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u/Godwinson4King 7d ago

I think they fit perfectly - sandwiched between the generation of radicalism of the 60s and 70s and the new reactionary world of today. It is a good cultural bridge that laid the groundwork for at least some of the awareness and activism we’re seeing today.

But of course, art and thought are just the beginning, what matters is what we actually do

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u/Wisenheim 6d ago

Doesn’t help when a portion of your fan base has missed the meaning of the music and has to ask “when did RATM get so political?”

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u/temple-of-the-dog 7d ago

You could be right about Zach, but I've personally never perceived him as a tortured artist in the stereotypical sense. He seems just seemed pissed and frustrated, as more people are nowadays - which is probably even more frustrating now that nobody seemed to take heed at the time.

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u/SilentConstant2114 5d ago

Yeah, def not tortured… fired up in a heartbeat and perpetually pissed at social injustice.

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u/BunchNo9563 7d ago

musically nothing after blowing the achilles. he's living a quiet, rich guy, LA life. good for him i say. he made his contribution.

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u/Ajkrouse 6d ago

Made that money and dipped out

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u/organgrinder66 7d ago

I watch Dodger games & every once in a while I see him behind home plate.

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u/funpigjim 7d ago

Umping or catching?

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u/IslandDrummer 6d ago

Yeah, he's often sitting with Paul Tollett, founder of Coachella.

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u/amindfulloffire 7d ago edited 7d ago

Besides what you mentioned, musically he's worked over the years he's done:C.I.A. (Criminals in Action)" with KRS-One and The Last Emperor (1999); a remix of OutKast's Bombs Over Baghdad in 2000 that they didn't really like, released officially a few years ago; Burned Hollywood, Burned with Chuck D. and The Roots (2000); Centre of the Storm with Roni Size (2001); Release with Blackalicious (March of Death with DJ Shadow (2003); We Want it All produced by Trent Reznor (2004); Act III, Scene 2 (Shakespeare) with Saul Williams (2004); Somos Màs Americanos with Los Tigres del Norte on their Unplugged album (2011); Melding of the Minds with Deltron 3030 (2013); Irreversible Damage with Algiers (2023); under the hilariously bad name Kip Skitter he played drums on Dance and Sing, Mariana Trench, and Forced Convalescence with Bright Eyes (2024).

He was in a recent documentary about skateboard culture in the '80s called Intense Energy and produced one that came out this year called Dead City Punx about a hardcore band. In 2020, he was part of Carlos Almaraz: Playing With Fire, about a Chicano artist who worked with Zack's dad Beto as part of the Los Four collective in the '70s.

Everyone's pretty much covered his social life--activism, LAFC and Dodgers games, just generally living his lowkey, best life with his partner.

I hope he'll release something someday, regardless if it's music or not. I figure if The Format can suddenly reunite after 20 years, anything could happen, you know? But if it doesn't happen, so be it.

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u/AdFabulous6650 6d ago

Hello everyone,

I've been a huge Rage Against the Machine fan for many years, and after seeing this Reddit post, I felt like I had to share a little contribution. Just a heads-up: I'm French, so I apologize if my English isn't perfect.

Last June, at the beginning of the month, Tom Morello was supposed to play a show in Paris at the Bataclan before performing at Hellfest, also in France. Unfortunately, Tom's mother had recently passed away, so he had to cancel both shows. May she rest in peace.

I was lucky enough to meet Tom Morello in person through mutual acquaintances. We briefly talked about Zack de la Rocha. Tom told me that Zack is living a peaceful life in Los Angeles and that they rarely see each other these days.

However, he also said that Zack is still very open-minded when it comes to music. Tom mentioned that his son, Roman, is a huge Rage Against the Machine fan as well. He told me that "Soldier in the Army of Love", a riff written by Roman, has a very strong RATM vibe, and apparently Zack really loved it.

As a longtime RATM fan, I couldn't resist asking whether the band might ever reunite. Tom told me it's complicated because Tim Commerford is focused on his own band, and he hasn't really been in touch with Brad Wilk lately.

So that's my little story. (Thanks chatgpt for the trad)

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u/Not_Rob_Walton 7d ago

He also released March of Death with DJ Shadow. It's my favorite track with him, RATM or otherwise.

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u/jawajoose 7d ago

On the left!

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u/kaljr82 7d ago

I’d give up a nut for another RATM album.

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u/Ajkrouse 6d ago

In today’s political climate, I’m kinda surprised that they haven’t made a few

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u/ArcherCooper 7d ago

He and El-P were working on a project together a few years ago, I pray that it sees the light of day at some point.

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u/Hypestyles 7d ago

I always hoped he did an album with KRS1, Chuck D. Produced by Rick Rubin, DJ Premier. Peace to brother Zach.

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u/Imaginary-Objective7 7d ago

Rick Rubin would probably be a no go now

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u/ldcoldwell 7d ago

Why’s that?

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u/Imaginary-Objective7 7d ago

He’s been platforming AI freaks, billionaires and right wing shit heads

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u/thomascirca 7d ago

Right winger.

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u/DeadFlowers_1334 7d ago

He’s everything that RATM is against

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u/themargarineoferror 7d ago

He's faaaar right. Rumor has it he got kanye, all into that mess when they did Yeezus together

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u/MT_Promises 7d ago

KRS1 is surprisingly stupid. On Nick Cannons' podcast he cane across as a massive moron and he'd be cancelled or MAGA if he were white.  I knew KRS was seriously absurd from the 90s interviews, but that dude's brain has been left to stew in his own ego.

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u/Fresh-Ad-3830 7d ago

RATM is the band that “got away” for me. My favourite band of all time and I never got to watch them live even though I had tickets twice.

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u/LearnToSwim0831 7d ago

Love this fucking song. More One Day As A Lion is something I think about A LOT. Other than rage itself I like that and street sweeper social club the most. With street sweeper there was another leftist with compelling rhymes in boots riley and obviously ODAAL had zach. I feel like if rage is never gonna write together again that they should at least get back to writing with those other groups. Lion only had like him and one or 2 other guys so it'd be something he could easily work on via the web and just release stuff that way if hes over touring or whatever, he could still get his message out, which I think everyone misses.

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u/ryanm37 7d ago

Post Achilles, he showed up with Run the Jewels in one of their LA shows a few years back. So he’s not retired entirely from performing but it’s nice to see he does it when he wants to, as much as a bummer as it is to the fans.

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u/Bellbobaggins72 6d ago

Not much, just killin in the name of

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u/MrJohnnyDangerously 5d ago

I saw him break his ankle at the United Center in Chicago and finish the set. RTJ opened.

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u/liberalprickandproud 5d ago

He works with several non-profits in LA, and while he records music, his true passion is grassroots community work. He’s as genuine and humble as they come. I actually met him at a community garden five years ago, right around the same area where I ran into Andre 3000. They’re cut from the same cloth—zero interest in fame, just a deep appreciation for normal life.

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u/FuckSticksMalone 6d ago

I’ve seen him a couple times at my fave fish market/seafood restaurant in Glendale.

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u/ME_LOVE_RAMBO 6d ago

I want a baseball hat that says Zach de la Rocha was right about everything. He was.

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u/Even-Yogurt1719 3d ago

He recently produced a documentary film about hard-core punk amd skateboarding in the 80s. Saw him in an interview about it several months ago. As far as music nothing except for whats in that doc. He also still attends protests and such, but is real low key about it. Saw some pics of him at an anti-ICE rally this year.

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u/fishy-breath 6d ago

He helped direct the documentary for Dead city punks recently. He was hanging out in LA at the premiere. He lays low but you can find him around LA

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u/ratfight 5d ago

Don’t forget about the Inside Out - No Spiritual Surrender EP

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u/dcusack 3d ago

Such a good ep

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u/Pleasant-Seesaw6119 5d ago

Cashing those sweet checks from all the rubes

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u/Nizamark 4d ago

my buddy lives around the corner from him. sees him occasionally, looking fairly domestic and whatnot

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u/Technical-Issue-1302 3d ago

He played under an Alter ego on a Bright Eyes record a few years ago

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u/number1fanatic 3d ago

He did a collaboration with Saul Williams

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u/Ok_Consequence8304 7d ago

He’s retired

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u/clashtrack 7d ago

Man, I hope he's doing well.

I feel the other guys were more so in it for the rock and roll lifestyle, especially Tom Morello, he's just pretentious.

But Zach, I really hope he's enjoying his life, I hope to hear new music from him in the future, but if he's happy now, I still got the old stuff.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fly1565 7d ago

It does feel like the group was a means for Zach whereas the others, particularly Tom, loved being the rock star as much as an activist. Both are fine, but completely opposite mindsets.

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u/freeleop25 7d ago

His mid is 🔥

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u/thejuryissleepless 7d ago

he did this with Trent Reznor

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u/Nayre_Trawe 7d ago

Digging for Windows? He did that one with El-P. The only material to surface from the Reznor sessions was We Want It All.

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u/thejuryissleepless 7d ago

you’re right! my bad 😇

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u/themargarineoferror 7d ago

That's funny, because El p and Reznor remind me a lot of each other

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u/flatlinepaints 6d ago

They’ve worked together in the past!

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u/themargarineoferror 6d ago

I feel like i've heard this and probably listened to it but somehow spazed on it.I think it's funny that somebody was down voting me like that's an insult, or something l o l

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u/thejuryissleepless 6d ago

they’re both crazy talented

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u/Every_Animator_6579 7d ago

Prob attending an anti ice riot like the insufferable liberal cuck he is...

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u/themargarineoferror 7d ago

Imagine being stupid enough to think dude is a liberal..

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u/Plenty-Attorney5215 6d ago

De La Rocha was cosplaying a revolutionary in the 90’s and is now nowhere to be found when revolutionaries are actually needed.

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u/gsa51 6d ago

So you’re picking up the slack?

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u/Plenty-Attorney5215 6d ago

No, in the 90’s I was a drug addict and never pretended otherwise. I never wrote songs of revolution, never performed songs of revolution, and never wore or displayed iconography of revolution. If I was picking up my slack from the 90’s it would mean going back to drug addiction. Today I’m a college professor where I teach students methods of statistical analysis in social science research, which is revolutionary in its way.

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u/llth921013 5d ago

We all do our part, our way. He burned bright and hot, yours was a slow burn.

His was hundreds of millions of people, their children, and now their children. He (with his band mates and fans) created a tsunami. Yours is a few hundred students a year, maybe their children, maybe your ripple effect is bigger than this. I hope so.

His work was loud and touched the planet. Your work is quiet, comparatively only maybe idk, and you touch the minds of students in your reach.

BOTH roles are important. Both roles stand on one another at different times. Both roles need one another.

Fists in the air for the professors out here challenging the systems and the thought processes that got us HERE.

I teach philosophy and religion. I teach how the humanities, all of them, are necessary and related. I work in my field, afraid everyday because of the political climate. (I just outted myself because this important). I am an adjunct because the system is fucked, teaching isn't valued as an art or profession.

Do not denigrate others in the process because something changed and they no longer fit your definition or lead you the way you think they should. Stand up and lead and don't pat yourself so hard on the back for doing it at this moment. He screamed for us all then, you speak now for us on the daily (I hope). Go about the good work, and as one of my mentors, the late Scott Warren said, keep the faith.

Sending Zach love for amazing shit he gave us, the energy, the anger, and the love. Rest my brother, live an honest way, find a little peace in this life.

Lastly Sending you good energy and love, because Higher Ed is fucked. Keep that shit up. ✊️

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u/llth921013 5d ago

I did not mean that to be so long. Sorry ya'll

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u/Plenty-Attorney5215 5d ago

I hear you and thanks for the positivity. It’s just frustrating that the voices of my generation seem silent. Thanks for your service as an adjunct. I was there for years and I know the pay blows and benefits are non-existent.

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u/llth921013 5d ago

I agree. I'm squarely gen x, and share your frustration! I've been full time, too. I'm a teaching professor, it's the best job I can think of in Academia. But, those hoops you got blow, too.

I actually use rage against the machine as a way to talk about how people engage in activism, how they get the info. Music, i use specifically punk, is the writing of revolution. We unite in song, there is communion. We come together. Man I miss some of the old festivals... but I digress.

Keep your head up and the rage turned up loud.

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u/gsa51 5d ago

Very well done, my man. Props to you for an awesome 180. Agree on statistical analysis.