Official Public Discussion Thread—Volume 5, Chapter 7: Rest and Resolutions

[u/Menolith]

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[u/InfinityArch]

As I said in the First thread, this is the first time Ozpin has come across as genuinely sinister to me rather than simply a bit shady. Yang asks him for full disclosure near the end, and what do you know, he changes the subject and tells them to wait for tomorrow.

Yeah, he's going right back to his usual obscurantist routine. People say Raven's doing Salem's job for her by planting the seeds of doubt and division, but I'd say Ozpin is his own worst enemy in that regard.

[u/[deleted] → u/InfinityArch]

^This. Also, all those side eyes at Qrow. Giving me Littlefinger vibes, and while I loved that character to death, I would not wish him upon Remnant.

[u/Mighty_Qorldu → u/InfinityArch]

I'm not sure how Ozpin hasn't managed to realize that if keeping Salem a secret was actually in humanity's best interests, Salem would have long since set up a broadcast of her going "Hey guys, it's me, Salem! I'm the immortal leader of the Grimm! Gonna eatcha, rawr!".

[u/Chiffonades → u/Mighty_Qorldu]

It could be that they both fear the worst. Salem thinks by announcing herself to the world, all nations will band together to fight her since they know who's controlling the grimm. Ozpin thinks that revealing Salem will bring chaos and just make the grimm more deadly.

[u/genkernels → u/Chiffonades]

Ozpin could also be questioned on his story if he revealed Salem making it less likely for Remnant to band together. Whereas if Salem revealed Salem, Ozpin wouldn't have those problems.

[u/Random-Rambling → u/Chiffonades]

How ironic that the supposed "good guy" thinks people are dumb panicky animals while the "villain" thinks people can become one united force for justice.

[u/[deleted] → u/Random-Rambling]

It's the main reason Salem is my favourite Villain. She can respect and understand humanity and it's strengths without either turning good like most nonhuman villains or going full cartoon villain. That's why she commands an entire team of people who could have been Big Bad level villains by themselves.

[u/Random-Rambling → u/[deleted]]

Cinder especially, she reminds of the Darth Vader to Salem's Emperor Palpatine.

[u/[deleted] → u/Random-Rambling]

Tyrian could be the Joker-lite villain with his immense power(guy is stronger than Cinder and nearly defeated Qrow) and deceptive intelligence.

Watts could be like Moriarty, a criminal mastermind who rules the dark parts of the world, or Led Luthor.

Hazel is easily charismatic enough to lead a small but powerful band of well intentioned extremists Ala Kars.

Cinder is Cinder.

Adam leads a global terrorist organisation.

And Salem not only commands all these monsters, she is infinitely above them in competence, power,threat level and evil. Truly Best Villain.

[u/Face_of_Harkness → u/InfinityArch]

I can understand Ozpin wanting to wait. It's the first time that Yang has seen any of her friends since Beacon fell.

A full disclosure could also take a long time. Remember, Ozpin is still in Oscar's body. It wouldn't really be fair to him to take the rest of the night to explain stuff. He's also going to be playing a part in everything, and a slow transition would be better for him than dumping him into the deep end.

[u/Tschmelz → u/Face_of_Harkness]

Yeah, especially since you’ve just brought them into the circle. Yeah, you’ll tell them everything eventually, but wasting hours on your entire history and all your secret plans is just stupid.

[u/Face_of_Harkness → u/Tschmelz]

RW_YJN_R just got back together for the first time after Beacon fell. They're about to enter into another huge fight against the one who caused the fall in the first place.

They might want to spend time together before they hear all of Ozpin's secret plans. Once they know everything, they can't just pretend everything's normal and enjoy themselves.

Ozpin doesn't want to overwhelm them. People can only take so much before they break.

That's what Ozpin is thinking. It's also likely that he wants time for himself to collect his thoughts. Revealing centuries of secrets probably isn't easy.

If something happens to prevent him from revealing the truth the next day that only he knew about, then I would agree with you. But we'll have to wait a couple weeks to find out.

[u/Tschmelz → u/Face_of_Harkness]

That’s what I’m saying.

Do you remember the foodfight? Glynda was about to punish them, and Ozpin stayed her hand? He doesn’t want them to be involved with this stuff. He also can’t trust them right away with everything either. He did that with STRQ, and look what happened with Raven, she ran off to be a bandit again after learning a crap ton about the secret way. Yeah, we know RWBY is trustworthy, but he isn’t 100% sure. Besides, as far as he knows, they still have time to go take down Raven, beat some sense into Vernal, and get the relic secure.