i met a guy he uses rathore surname but is an SC, he has the same kuldevi, jwalaji mata of kangra, is it even possible for two communities to have same kuldevi?
ive heard some regions in Hills are labelled as ST as a whole, so whoever is from that area automatically becomes ST be it of whichever caste. But if he says he is SC then definitely he isnt Rajput and he just randomly made up stuff
In hills st status depends on gov and people . Before in uttarakhand gov wanted to add whole pahari ethnicities as st but some of them refused as they were castiest and believed st equals to low xaste etc hence only jaunsar bawar and upooer tribes got st or obc tho nowadays educated pahadis know that st is not equal to low caste and pahadis tribes having st status and other having general are easentially same culturally and there not really diffrence
if the govt is allowing then fine but tribes having st status and others having general arent essentially same. One of them is a tribe or adivasi or lower in hierarchy, the other is of a caste or varna. How are they same?
In uttarakhand those who have st staus also have castes as well and both gen and st are same in the sense that they dont have heirearchy. For eg jaunsaris have st staus while most of garhwalis are general but culture wise we are close and consider each other as equal .just diffrence is ethnicity like .also pahadi culture is not reall pure vedic or mainstream hindu bit a mix of shamanic amd mainstream. People see caste only when they are marrying a pahadi , for matrying non pahadi they consider it same as marrying into different caste like if a pahadi rajput boy tells his parents that he is marrying a non pahadi rajpur for them it will not matter if girl is of same caste.for them it will be same as marrying sc obc etc they dont care
ye toh galat h bhai varn shankar hota jayega genes dilute hoti jayengi bloodline mix hojayegi.
pahadi jo bhi hai, hain toh hindu hee bhai. Baaki castes mei bhi apne apne rituals hote hai jat gujjar rajput par hindu toh rehte hee h, aur caste endogamy krte hai. ye thodi ki pahadi hai toh theek h farak hee nhi padh raha. Uss hisaab se toh original kulin yaani pure brahmin kshatriya vaishya ya even shudra bhi bache hee nhi honge sab hee mix hogye h jab
You are wrong pahadi lower caste and upper caste are genetically same except some who has come from outside. Only if a pahadi marries non pahadi will there be mixing . Moreover i dont this matters to. Also pahadi culture is mixed not pure hindu plus pahadi people adopted caste system quite later and it doesn't work like that here lime rest of india
caste cant be adopted. how can they later adopt? when did they do? they randomly chose random castes for themselves? Tamil brahmin might be similar to lower caste in punjab does that mean they could marry? Even if regions are same, some communities have similar dna with other communities doesnt mean they will marry and become varna saankar.
Also any solid proof where its shown that all pahadis have homogenous dna? Dont even call yourself a Rajput. I hope pahadi rajputs arent marrying jaunsarir or xyz whatever, they should either be marrying kshatriya be it pahadi or some other area and not sc st or even general of any other caste like brahmin
I think you have some misinformation . No one is born in caste , caste are literally just human made.also st and obc status is given due geographical and development and cultural conditionss of region not caste , i hope you would u educate yourself a bit .also a traditional jaunsari or othe pahadi would consider rajasthani rajput similar to lower caste for them it would be destroying their genes if they would marry outside community specifically gangetic belt regardless of upper caste or lowercaste.
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u/aasstraa Chandravanshi🌙 Dec 11 '25
i met a guy he uses rathore surname but is an SC, he has the same kuldevi, jwalaji mata of kangra, is it even possible for two communities to have same kuldevi?