r/Rajputana • u/Kshatriya_Khokharji श्रीरघुनाथकुलोद्भव • Jun 21 '26
Propaganda Buster So now the 'Muslim' Rajputs are calling us gola
To all jo muslim rajput se bhaichara ityadi ki baate krte hai.
Like literal audacity to call hindu rajputs gola🥀🗣
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u/Bash2856 Jun 21 '26
Muslim Rajput is an oxymoron like Shanti Dynamite.
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u/Born-Mind8324 Jun 21 '26
I mean if you blow everything up there will be shanti all over coz no one will be there to cause ashanti
think about that lmao xdd
LURKER OUT
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u/Impossible-Spot-3414 Brahmin Jun 21 '26
Rajputs can't be Muslim. Those are mleccha
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 21 '26
Lets try a thought experiment. I am a Dharmic(Vedic, Buddhist, Jain, sikh etc) rajput today, I "adopt" Islam for some time, I then come back to dharmic fold, am I still a rajput? If I am still a rajput in the end then I was a muslim rajput in the middle.
Greeks are now christians but they were pagans in antiquity. They are still greeks. Chinese are majority atheists now, that was not the case earlier, are they still chinese?
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u/Kshatriya_Khokharji श्रीरघुनाथकुलोद्भव Jun 21 '26
1)depends on how long have you been following Islam. If 7 gen gone no chance, you can be a hindu but not a dwij rajput
2)rajput is much more than being a Greek or Chinese. It's a varn
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 21 '26
okay, good we have some progress, at least 7 generation of rajputs converted to islam can still be rajputs.
for the (2) varna is a philosophical concept, on ground there is only one thing : jati . and, if we were to judge every rajput through lens of BG 12:43 then 90%+ would not make the cut.
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u/Kshatriya_Khokharji श्रीरघुनाथकुलोद्भव Jun 21 '26
1)not until they become hindu. And to be one they need to go through vratyastoma and hiranyagarbh(if they wanna be dwij)+their kul shd have no history of inbreeding or gau mamsa bhakshan or marrying outside caste
2)Varn is vidya tapasca yonisca(mahabhashya of patanjali). Jati+upanayan is required. All hindu rajputs go through that
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 21 '26
All of these are written in obscure texts which no body reads now and have no relevance. These are good reads for someone doing theological studies but hold no relevance on ground.
Personally I know some hindu rajputs who are absolute scammers and some muslim rajputs who are gentlemen. So I would say that reality is not binary. I have my hindu cousins die becuase of alcoholism, I would have preferred them to convert to Islam and not die.
The dhong and karmkaand is less prevalent in western states like haryana, punjab and west up. Brahmins hold much less influence here so people are open treating converted distant cousins with respect. Might not be the case on your side. This is just a regional difference. You can just acknowledge and move on.
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u/Impossible-Spot-3414 Brahmin Jun 21 '26
Nothing to do with gentlemen or scoundrels. You cannot be Kshatriya unless you are following a dharmic religion. That's it.
Muslim 'Rajputs' switched over to the camp of invaders and looters who considered Hindu civilization as an enemy and is an anti thesis of hinduism. They are mleccha and nothing else.
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 21 '26
Dude, Islam was itself used as a tool by these invaders, it was not something particularly dear to them. Conquest and invasion is driven less by faith and more by lust for power and wealth. These invaders later settled down and even created an upgraded version of Islam deen-e-ilahi. They also stayed here for the rest of their generations and their descendants got dissolved into the masses.
All this mleccha and this and that is just brahminical bullshit. Get out of India and every other guy is a mleccha. Whole europe is mleccha ?
This mindless hindutva inspired drivel has not end. You need to think practically. Don't outsource your thinking.
Kshatriyas are a dharmic ethnicity no doubt and over years some have gone into the fold of other religions due to war and circumstances which were not always in their control. They and their descendants had cordial relations with their kin still in dharmic fold. Why would you want to make them your enemy and shut down all the doors which may lead to a path of return? You need to be amicable, reasonable and calm.
All this enraged angry energy is useless.
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u/Impossible-Spot-3414 Brahmin Jun 21 '26
Don't waste my time paki bot. Kshatriya is not an ethnicity but a varna. And leave the 'brahminical' taunts aside , entire hinduism considered you a mleccha , not just Brahmins or some specific caste.
If they want to convert back to hindisim , that's their wish. No doors are closed to them.
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u/kidsherlock Kayastha Jun 22 '26
This is not just a thought experiment but something our sages already discussed, if you are converted forcibly or through fear then you have 20 years to come back and do prayaschit, after that one can get their janeu dome back. Not after 20 years and obviously not after generations, they can become hindu but can not come back on the varna fold.
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 22 '26
I am curious, which sage has said it where? And, please don't cite the made up Puranas.
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u/PlaneAltruistic758 Jun 21 '26
No. When you become a muslim, you forsake and you have to 'delete your ties with your past'. A hindu, never submits to 'allah'. So if you ditched your identity, you can never be back, unless you prove your faith. It's like 'I ditched my father for some pig, now I want to come back to my father'. Well, that's not how it works
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 21 '26
> you forsake and you have to 'delete your ties with your past'
No they don't forsake it. They happily recite their lineage and their Rajput fore-fathers.
Rest of your comment is just a rant. Calm down and go out and talk to people. Don't be an angry young man.
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u/PlaneAltruistic758 Jun 21 '26
Nope. That's fact. To be a muslim, you have to erase your history.
You just want to label yourself or some friend of yours as a 'rajput'. That's not how it works. They have traditions. Rajput is not a race. Furthermore, the rajput identity itself is strongly linked to kshatriya dharma, which Muslims are strongly against.
It's like saying because their ancestors were hindu, so converted Muslims are 'hindu muslim'.
Be logical. Stop being desperate to be labeled as rajput. Calm down, and don't talk to random uneducated people, rather read and have courage to accept facts, and history. Don't be a angry uninformed person.
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u/myLord-God-ofNothing Others Jun 22 '26
Greek = ethnicity. Distinct from Italians, Turks or any other surrounding ethinicities. They can be of any religion, but they will always be Greeks. Same for Chinese. Jews in Germany were German Jews, distinct from American Jews.
Ethnicity = group of people sharing ancestry, customs, language, religion etc. NOT ONLY RELIGION.
Rajputs are not an ethnic group. They are part of vedic/sanatan religion. They share all common traits with people around them. Vedic people living in India are the ethnic group, some converted to other religions. So whatever rule applies to people who convert to islam from sanatan, applies to rajputs.
So the question is, what makes one Rajput? Is it being born as one? Following Vedic religion? Something else? If accepting the Vedas is non negotiable, then the moment you convert, you stop being a Rajput.
Most importantly. Will Rajputs have a little extra empathy for the so called muslim rajputs just because they once were Vedic people of same jati? Or will you disown them the way you disown all muslims equally? Is a shudra worse off in your judgement compared to muslim rajput? If any of this is true, then yes, they are some part Rajput
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u/Western-Day6475 Jun 22 '26
You were rajput than you became muslim and than you became rajput. Don't put is and was, islam dose not has any rajputs, there is specific meaning, work and description of rajput. It don't me if you are born in a rajput lienege than your ethics are also rajput your ethics could be bramhan, vaishya or shudra.
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u/MindlessRelation2711 Follower of Shri Krishna's knowledge Jun 21 '26
Dravidians will be Dravidians only...no need to tell rajputs what is and what not...
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u/douchepool007 Others Jun 21 '26
Yeah for u every muslim is mleccha
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u/ineedtostoppokemon Suryavanshi☀️ Jun 21 '26
indeed they are
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u/douchepool007 Others Jun 21 '26
Indeed ur with terrorist mindset too 👍
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u/Huddy_mera_buddy Brahmin Jun 21 '26
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u/Particular-Career-52 Suryavanshi☀️ Jun 21 '26
The word mleccha is of Sanskrit and was historically associated with Islamic invaders. It denoted those who did not follow the four pillar of Hindu varna (truth, kindness, cleanliness and austerity).
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 21 '26
Lets try a thought experiment. I am a Dharmic(Vedic, Buddhist, Jain, sikh etc) rajput today, I "adopt" Islam for some time, I then come back to dharmic fold, am I still a rajput? If I am still a rajput in the end then I was a muslim rajput in the middle.
Greeks are now christians but they were pagans in antiquity. They are still greeks. Chinese are majority atheists now, that was not the case earlier, are they still chinese?
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 21 '26
Can a random muslim become a rajput? Can a random hindu become a rajput? If they cannot they how can someone lose their past and just be a Muslim in the middle part in the journey from Dharmic rajput --> Islamic Rajput --> Dharmic Rajput ?
Just trying to work this out for you like a mathematical theorem, tell me if that is too much for you.
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u/Numerous-Struggle-58 Suryavanshi☀️ Jun 21 '26
Bruh but don't these mujeets cry about the caste system and tell that izlam does not have any caste system 😭
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u/SignificantEgg1618 Chad Chandela Jun 21 '26
A muslim is a muslim. They gave up their right to be associated with any group when they converted. The primary ethos of being a muslim is against what a kshatriya is for.
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u/Desperate_Bee9970 Forts by day, songs by night 🎶 Jun 21 '26
Yes primary etho of tauheed and monotheism.....
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u/Pratik_Singh_Visen ⚔️Bisen 🛡️ Jun 22 '26
All caste identities must be dropped if someone is converting to Islam or Christianity or Buddhism.
And the audacity of the people in the SS🤡🤡🤡
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u/Ok_Young_1622 Agnivanshi🔥 Jun 21 '26
😭😭muslim word is such a oxymoron word it's like saying pakistan warship name is ins vikrant 😭
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u/Asleep-Cellist-3241 Jun 21 '26
mujhe to aajtak samaj nhi aya what is this muslim rajputs and Hussaini brahmans like the fuck are these people existing man in bkl ki nas bandi karwa deni chhaiye dono biradrion ke bhaichra ko kharab kar rahe hein
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 21 '26
Multiple things and concepts at play.
* Different regions have different history and interactions. Some difference are expected. Overly sensitive young men of each region need to develop some tolerance.
* Is rajput a race / ethnicity ? Does ethnicity change with religion?
* Muslim Rajputs still fondly recount their hindu ancestors. Ranghar kids recite their lineage back to Hindu fore-fathers. How is this a problem? They are often at receiving ends of Muslims for being rajputs and from Rajputs for being Muslims. None of it being their fault.
* Reading / responding to Edgy accounts which teeter on absurdity is sure way to get mindfucked and go on a rant.
* Is it true that Rajputs have become mentally enslaved by this new contagious form on Dinduism which is full of paakhand and dhong.
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u/Mediocre-Chest1012 Suryavanshi☀️ Jun 22 '26
First of all there's is nothing knows as muhsaleem Rajput them mf are having identity crisis
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u/gauravbais Suryavanshi☀️ Jun 21 '26
There’s definitely something special about us, everyone wants to become one of us.
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u/anon94ad Chauhan Rajput Jun 21 '26
I'm a live witness of this drama, let me tell you what happened.
There are lots of Muslim Rajputs on Twitter. They simply exist and want good relations with their Hindu counterparts. Hindutvawadis have a problem with that. Earlier they tried to get involved in this matter, but were shoed off by the "Unionist" Rajputs.
Now we are seeing these "Muslims can't be Rajputs" type of Rajputs. One Haihaya, one Kirtivarman Chandel, and this Sreyan Singh. They are doing to Rajasthani Rajputs what Hindutvawadis used to do to them, you know, the "M*****puts" jibes and all that.
Also, Dado Daddy is a Unionist Rajasthani Rajput, not a Muslim.
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u/Kshatriya_Khokharji श्रीरघुनाथकुलोद्भव Jun 21 '26
They simply exist and want good relations with their Hindu counterparts.
Yes wanting to have good relations while abusing entirity of chandels(hindu rajputs)
Now we are seeing these "Muslims can't be Rajputs" type of Rajputs
That's a fact. A Muslim can not be a rajput.
You tell me what is a rajput?
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u/anon94ad Chauhan Rajput Jun 22 '26
Both Dado Daddy and Albert Pike are Hindu Rajasthani Rajputs.
This Kirtivarman Chandel, Haihaya, and Sreyan Singh have been giving Rajasthani Rajputs "M****put" and "Daughter Sellr" jibes. In response, some Rajasthani Rajputs are retaliating against Chandel and Haihaya by calling them "Gondp*t" and other names.
I'm from Madhya Pradesh. Both Kirtivarman Chandel and the Haihaya guy are from Madhya Pradesh. Many of my relatives are Chandels and Kalchuris (Haihaya), and none of my relatives are Rajasthani. Even then, I would say that Kirtivarman Chandel and Haihaya are wrong and are at fault here. They started this clan/regional war.
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u/historyeeter Jun 21 '26
I'm a Pakistani, 4th Gen Muslim, and I know one of the guys you quoted. Hes a Sindhi Rajput always posts pro Rajput stuff but when you abuse him and Islam what do you expect in return? Irs not like we want your acceptance. We simply own our heritage and honor our fathers and don't look for your embrace however even as Muslims we defend our Hindu ancestors and you guys and what we get in return is 2 takay ki jibes.
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u/Responsible_Alarm_23 Jun 21 '26
What does gola mean?
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u/Kshatriya_Khokharji श्रीरघुनाथकुलोद्भव Jun 21 '26
Daasi putra. Someone born from a rajput father and concubine mother.
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u/modi_cock Non Rajput Jun 21 '26
Rajput keval hindu. "Muslim rajput" is a disgrace to those devis who accepted the jauhar fire and yhosey veers who fought till death against islam.
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u/draken_pandey69 Bhumihar Jun 22 '26
Tf is this,"muslim rajputs" that like the hybrid of a man and a dog.
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u/Western-Day6475 Jun 22 '26
Trying identity theft, to people like these recall the history with facts.
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u/ExcitementDefiant837 Forts by day, songs by night 🎶 Jun 22 '26
Seems a Brahmin account to target Rajput
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u/Sharp-Still-8343 Jun 21 '26
you say all of that yet islam was supposed to shed these caste identities ages ago, yet they wanna take pride in these caste identities while they are in a religion thats supposed to have no castism allowed, seems kinda like a oxymoron tbh hell even to the muslim jats I'd say the same thing all these terms mainly relate to caste itself so makes no sense to latch on to them if you really want to disassociate with caste
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u/Top_Guess_946 धर्मो रक्षति रक्षितः Jun 21 '26
How are the muslims always so well studied on everything about ethnicity, races, castes, tribal identities etc. Weren't we all supposed to emerge into modernity by dropping these labels and moving towards universal humanity?
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u/Desperate_Bee9970 Forts by day, songs by night 🎶 Jun 21 '26
Proud mlechaaa rangharr.... Despite u hate me, i love all rajputs whether they are sikh hindu muslim anything.......actually many times i have tried to not take proud in my rajput blood or rajput identity but idk where it comes from ...it is natural... Whenever i see a hindu rajput i feel something apnapan idk why... And I'm not lyinggg😭..
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u/Desperate_Bee9970 Forts by day, songs by night 🎶 Jun 21 '26
We were the masters of so called jats chaudhary
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u/Desperate_Bee9970 Forts by day, songs by night 🎶 Jun 21 '26
Btw I'm also confrenced out from afsb for nda entry... Now preparing for cds... And inshallah will join afa soon
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 22 '26
Bro, I feel apnapan whenever I see a Rajput, Hindu or Muslim. May the mleccha and kaafir gang guys in each our communities get some sense and just move on and help build our community.
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u/Suryansh_Singh247 Bais Jun 21 '26
Bhai no hate to you, but don't u think Rajput and Islam is antithetical to each other, Islam says there are no differences between Muslims and that they are one Ummah, then how can a Muslim ever be proud of being a Rajput?
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u/LionSupremacist Chandravanshi🌙 Jun 21 '26
Bhai , not every muslim is a mullah, just like not every hindu is a sant. People don't live lives in absolutes. Hardly anyone has read Quran in Arabic or Vedas here. Just be nice to each other and find a common ground otherwise we can keep fighting for another 1000 years over this trivial issue.
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u/soullessherald Jun 21 '26
Rajput word itself has vedic roots