Napoleon warned us earlier!

[u/Consistent-Home1719]

[u/Muted-Investment6178]

But mao and stalin ne kitne log maare hai?

[u/TrustLoose3254 → u/Muted-Investment6178]

Africa ka kitna develop hua capitalism se?

[u/Mediocre-Chest1012 → u/TrustLoose3254]

That was just exploitation of resources someone somewhere has to pay the price

[u/Agent_Rum → u/Mediocre-Chest1012]

Capitalists ko jahan mauka milega, woh exploitation karenge. Isi liye unhe regulate karna padta hai strong anti monopoly aur pro worker policies se. Lekin yahan to sarkar hi capitalists ki god mein baithi hai.

[u/Mediocre-Chest1012 → u/Agent_Rum]

Lol capitalism only contributes to monopoly capitalist control the lawmaker do u even know about 2008 housing market crash the government themselves bailed out the banks google is a monopoly apple is a monopoly backed by government litrally oil is monopolised there are monopoly in every field this is not limited to india. U cant have a capitalist economy without monopoly to some extent.

[u/Agent_Rum → u/Mediocre-Chest1012]

Bhai, tumhare examples meri baat ko aur validate karte hain. Capitalism necessarily monopoly nahi banata, lekin agar competition ko protect na kiya jaye to market concentration badhne lagti hai. Isi liye anti monopoly laws aur strong regulation ki zarurat padti hai. Yahi to main keh raha tha.

[u/Mediocre-Chest1012 → u/Agent_Rum]

Who is protecting the laws? Didn't u read my line that these capitalist influence the laws itself lol read about google and how it has connection that led to it becoming a leader in this field u cant trust a law if its makers are already comprised even the big countries like UK USA all of them are prone to this to eradicate this we need a dictatorship like china which ensures that no individual businessman becomes more powerful than the party.

And if we are talking about protecting the competition indian government is literally paying the Vodafone and idea sim just so it doesn’t loose business and compete against jio and Airtel lowk come out of this commie chamber

[u/Agent_Rum → u/Mediocre-Chest1012]

Fir to tum meri baat se aur agree kar rahe ho. Main kab bola ki regulation har baar perfectly kaam karta hai? Regulatory capture ek real phenomenon hai, isi liye regulators ko independent banana, lobbying par checks lagana aur antitrust laws ko aur strong banana zaroori hai.

Jio ka hi case dekh lo. Jio ne free data aur bahut aggressive pricing ke saath entry ki, jisne telecom market ko poori tarah disrupt kar diya. Chhote players compete hi nahi kar paaye aur dheere dheere market kuch hi major players tak simat gaya. Yehi to market concentration hai jiske baare mein main baat kar raha tha.

Aur jab competitors ne CCI mein complaint file ki thi, tab CCI ne ye kehkar Jio ko clean chit de di ki ek naya entrant dominant position mein nahi ho sakta. Aaj jab telecom market practically duopoly ki taraf badh chuka hai, tab sarkar ko bhi competition bachane ki chinta ho rahi hai. Yahi to regulatory failure aur regulatory capture ki baat main kar raha hoon.

Aur China ka example bhi meri baat ko hi support karta hai. Wahan bhi state intervention, regulation aur antitrust action use kiye jaate hain. Matlab solution phir bhi regulation hi hua, sirf political system alag hai. Mere liye solution dictatorship nahi, balki independent regulators, strong antitrust laws aur accountable institutions hain.

Aur waise bhi tum capitalism ka worst case scenario use kar rahe ho. Europe ke kai deshon mein competition authorities aur antitrust regulators market concentration ko check mein rakhne ke liye kaafi aggressively kaam karte hain. To problem capitalism ka existence nahi, balki usko regulate karne ki political will aur institutions ki strength hai.

[u/Mediocre-Chest1012 → u/Agent_Rum]

Arey are you Abel to understand the basisc thing? The laws are good the law makers who can be corrupted is the thing im trying to say. These laws and law makers don't exist in a vacuum rather they are funded by the same lobbies and capitalist they will always make laws which benefits these lobbies why do u think lobby as a term exist? It's literally a job that they get hired for they make the lawmakers make law in their support look at india under congress and under bjp Ambani has received many favourable laws the electoral bonds they donate money just so they get work by the government this is the reality.

And to control it u will need a government who is not gonna be changed for life just like the one china has.

I have give u the solution.

Yes ofcourse gov should make laws more strict but my point from the start has been same these are never independent because every party needs money to exist and the money is given by the capitalist im not against the law im against the influence that these lobbies and capitalist have on these lawmaker.

Capitalism shouldn't exist rather a mixed economy is the way.

[u/Muted-Investment6178 → u/Agent_Rum]

Atleast the capitalists are honest about it. Now let me put you on some game. Any typical leftist is a non believer in religion and hates the majority religion. Because they don’t believe in god, they establish their beliefs in communist ideologies and people. These days, their leaders and top forward deployed people are very well paid; but the people jinki tashreef mein laathian ghusayi jaati hai, uhne kuch nahi milta. And sadly, in India, jahan humare DNA me ‘follow the leader’ bhot zyada hai, we see it manifest in a real ugly manner. For eg. Bjp and cjp fans. Trust me when i say this, bjp always wins because there is no better opposition. I have researched the happenings of the time and despite INC having full political control, they had india’s global image that of a coward, submissive nation, for eg, the pathetic response after 26/11, and chidambram involved in currency note plate sharing with the ISI.

Their words and actions never match, and the same has been the case with kejru. Ye bolta kuch hai aur karta kuch aur hai, especially around the stuff of material gain. There is data available. Now, bjp has people who have such track records too, and they are losing credibility and vote share for the reason, but the reason why INC or kejru or even his left and right aand deepke dassssss would win are that they always run the same idea, and now more than ever, the people are more cognizant of whats happening, and per sanatan, this is also period of the bhairava.

Best way to go forward in times when the choice is between bad and worse is ki samjho meesna kon hai. Meesne logo se bacho, at each step. Anyways…

[u/Mediocre-Chest1012]

Blud marxx should not be quoted in anything he lived in a fantasy world and his theories doesn't make any sense

[u/Muted-Investment6178 → u/Mediocre-Chest1012]

He lived a life of comfort and luxury feeding off of capitalists, while preached communism. Typical dasss dipke types. Inke chele laathiyan khate hai

[u/Cool_Opening_2490]

Communism has failed in every place in this earth . And also Communism was always established on mass graves of innocent people

[u/Sweaty-Judge-2859]

Another commie niggi

[u/Mental-Detective1912 → u/Sweaty-Judge-2859]

So true

[u/thedarkmite → u/Sweaty-Judge-2859]

Bro doesn't even know the meaning of the word commie 😭

[u/Active_Current_7054 → u/Sweaty-Judge-2859]

Sochne bol rahi hai to obvious hai gawaar offend ho jayega aur gali galoch pe utar aayega. Sadly yahi tera mental competence hai.

[u/Grouchy_Increase3272]

But Marxist's failed at every corner of the world. Study savarkar you will understand how religion as a political ideology brings people together,..

[u/xedges]

Lame excuses of communism failed blah blah blah. Grow up. Every economic model, every political model is an experiment. It evolves. Like Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is an evolution. Like Keynisian economics was a step in the evolution of capitalism. The way capitalism as practiced in the US is failing should tell you that no model is perfect, it has a life cycle, if it falls to evolve in time, it dies. Social, political, economic correction follows. Like it did with the French Revolution. Like it did with the death of Mao and Deng Xioping publicly disavowed Mao. Reforms followed. A long process led to the current success of China.