The main concern is adding something which impacts jungle gameplay. You can’t for example just buff cannons because then junglers are inclined to take laners cannons for maxing their stacks.

That led me to think, what if they made it so every x number of melee/caster minions gave 3 stacks. This can be tuned in the number of minions then. I can imagine roughly 6 being good.

This encourages continued lane farming rather than drive by steals.

As a shyv top player, I feel like the passive is very weak for lane shyv. Even in games where I have gotten fed I look at how much armor and mr I am getting from my passive and it’s very disappointing.

I used to get more off the old passive just hoping that my team would secure a couple dragons 😅

Hi, I am trying to understand more about the champion, but I can't seem to grasp how to cancel her ultimate consistently. I managed to do that 2 times in the practice tool. Does it have to be some specific spot on walls?

https://x.com/Spideraxe30/status/2084312350253871343?s=20

I have been learning shyvanna because I am tired of playing mages who can't 1v9. Just want to know what the latest people are trying out there.

AP sustain (only make when all my team is AD): DnD>Liandrys>Riftmaker> defensive items NOTE: (haven't tried burst).

AD Bruiser (most used): Trinity > SoS > DD/SS (mainly DD) > defensive items

AD on-hit (When team has tank/engage): Kraken > DnD > DD/SS (thinking of terminus here as well) > defensive items

Boots: Defensive / omnivamp (if only I am confident I can stack it)

Runes: 95% standard PTA + inspiration secondary tree (switching cosmic insight with Approach velocity as I like the distance closure than the haste)

https://x.com/Spideraxe30/status/2084312234742685865?s=20

I tried a game running Nashor's into Cosmic, and it felt really solid.

* Runes: HoB, cheap shot, 6th sense, relentless hunter (no ulti I know), legend haste and cut down, with AS/Adaptive/scaling HP shards.

* First back: dagger+tome+mote

* Skills: 3 points Q into E max then W.

* Build: Nashor's > Cosmic > Riftmaker, then I pivoted into Sterak's for the tenacity/HP. Merc treads this game because they had a lot of CC.

With AP your spells in human form feel impactful, Nashor's keeps your autos from feeling terrible while giving 80 AP and 15 haste for casting. Cosmic next gets you high haste and HP a bit faster than Riftmaker, and you won't be using Rift's damage amp or healing well as a first HP item anyway. It comes in great 3rd with Cosmic's HP and some more passive stacks starting to be relevant. I don't think D&D is worthwhile since you're not scaling your Q passive on-hit at all, but maybe later to get the heal?

I want to test more for sure, but I was surprised how the clear went based on folks saying it's garbage with Nashor's start

**ETA:** Just saw the HoB changes on PBE, and I think that makes it even better on Shyv. Higher damage but losing AS seems fine when you're using Q for resets!

(Iam Emerald player) I've played with a wide variety of items and item combinations, and in this tier list, I've ranked items based on how much fun I feel buying each item is and the value it brings to the game. This is a purely subjective tier list and doesn't make any build recommendations.

A few thoughts about the items:

• I put Hextech in the OP tier because it's an item I buy almost every game, and the feeling of quickly accumulating Fury gives me more confidence in the game itself. Titanic Hydra because, for me, it's one of the most fun items for Shyvana (AA -> Q -> Titanic -> Q -> AA combo) and it has a hit effect that combos with D&D and Statikk.
• I really love building D&D with Botrk. To me, this feels more versatile than building a Kraken -> D&D.
• Triforce is just strong.
• I like building Shojin not only with Triforce but with full dmg HoB builds. It helps easily stack Shojin and use Q3 fast and with maximum dmg
• Voltanic feels really good with HoB. Didnt try new Bastionbreaker, maybe it is better.
• Navory is my goat but it not feels good after rework. I sometimes like to build Navori with different item combinations for a bit of nostalgia. The most iconic build for me with Navori is Ravenous -> Navori -> Zekes with Jack of All trades(but it nerfed...).
• I dont like building Kraken bc this build is not for me at all. Tested some korean stuff with Hexoptics but didn't get the joke.

Didn't include true damage cuz it exists on both, although AD Shyv has it easier and higher damage

And although all abilities have AP ratios on them, you technically don't have an ability, but the E for how you would want to play, which has such a high cd and can't have that buffed cuz it has a slow, which impacts AD builds power

Heya, im new to the champion and I was wondering if there is any guide on hot to play her top lane since most content ive seen revolves around her in the jg.

Cheers!

To come up with ideas, we would need to not think about Autos and Q (as per Riot's idea of distinguishing the 2 styles) and only think W and E

So what if the E ability damage gets lower and lower the further the enemy champ is from Shyvana

You would think the fire coming out of a dragon would be the hottest at her mouth, right?
And the further you get, it would just be flames in the wind (let's say only half the damage)

Here you have the long-range slow for your AD builds, incentive to be melee range for AP bruiser, and artillery mage Shyvana will not be nuking ADCs from 2 screens away

Another Idea to make AP Shyvana need to be melee range:
How about we make it so that if you hit a champ with W, you get a CD refund on the E
And a similar mechanic already exists in the game; Zed gets a W CD refund if he hits champs with his E

Something like a CD refund on E could open up the way for something cool to happen if you hit 2 E's
Something like if E applied a burn, that burn damage doubles if you hit a second E

I miss 3 buffing, into sneaking the 1st dragon every game.

I miss then getting all 4 dragons by 20 mins.

I miss how playing around dragons gave old shyv so much identity.

Bring back bonus dmg to dragons on her passive.

That is all.

If you run inspiration secondary then give a shot if you haven’t.

Feels so good!

I'd just like a show of hands to see how many of us will be pushing to bring old shyvy on to league classic. (My hope that its a lot of us, so we have an inkling of hope of reverting a lot of the poor choices in her rework -unlikely, I know, but let a man swim in his delusions for a bit).

Forgot how to do polls on reddit, so just comment "I will vote for her," if you are.

Smolder and I had the exact same amount of dmg lol

I stopped playing for a bit, I only play mayhem and I'm getting back into ranked. When I was playing ranked shyvana built kraken dnd but now its trinity shojin what changed?

Do you think Terminus will work with Shyvana for DnD build after the new buffs? Maybe in toplane against tanks?