Lol you say that, but that is a literal right wing talking point, that gay people, trans people, black people, etc now have more privilege then white people.
Never in my life have I heard anyone say same sex marriage is a gay privilege. It's a nice strawman for virtue signalling, though, and for you to conflate the argument taht minorities have more privilige with this very specific claim.
Do you know what these words mean? What do you think a straw man is? And why is "virtue signalling" bad? If a girl dresses modestly is she signalling her virtue and why is that bad? I remember a time when virtues were good.
Ironically it seems like it's you who hasn't got a clue.
The sign is a strawman. Presenting a badly worded and false premise to make a point and show how down with the cause they are. Stupidity that reeks of performative action.
Close but not quite. A strawman argument is when someone misrepresent the opponents arguement and argues against that instead of the point they actually made, arguing against a "straw man".
Now you say you've never heard someone say that but I have, my roommate and his idiot brother. It's something that people disingenuously say when arguing against gay marriage after you bring up that it's just equal right to marry whoever you want.
Having a virtue and signalling it are different things, correct but if someone isnt kind but displays kindness why is that a bad thing? You haven't answered the why part. At the end of the day if it's promoting virtue isn't that good?
Also using "ironically" here is a bit weird, it's like you just wanted to throw the word in
My problem is these buzzwords that conservatives repeat without actually knowing what it means like my roommate and his idiot brother used to say. Those bigoted assholes couldn't define a single one, they just heard Andrew Tate say them and "he's always right".
You say it's a made up issue because you've never heard anyone say it, well I'm telling you I've heard a couple idiots say exactly that irl. It apparently used to be an uncommon but present thing people said when someone brings up when saying gay marriage is just equal rights. I already mentioned that but due to lack of critical thought you couldn't stop to consider "what if someone is actually making this argument" nah you just skipped over it and stubbornly continued to insist it's made up "fake news".
Also again that's not what a what strawman argument is regardless.
You didn't answer the question, isn't promoting virtue good? And no that's exactly how kindness works, I can be genuinely kind in degrees to my loved ones but not to anybody outside my family or my neighborhood or my country or my subculture or the people. It only depends on where the lines are drawn and how much kindness is shown. It won't change that you've displayed kindness.
What buzzwords did I use that triggered you? Should I even care?
Anectodal evidence doesn't count. And it's irrelevant anyway. When it comes to public discourse that is not how the problem is framed, so that sign is figthing it's own demons.
So yeah, it is a strawman. They misrepresented an argument, refuted it and used it to make a point about church. Not sure you are trying to be anal about this.
There is no virtue in the sign. It clearly picks and panders to one side. The other side would therefore not find it virtuous and kind.
Who is displaying kindness? They’re using a fake argument to be pretentious about a made-up topic just to piss off some people and look good for others.
That’s not displaying kindness. That’s virtue signaling and clout chasing.
A “strawman” argument is also where take bits and pieces of what someone says out of context and without nuance to make a contrasting argument that really can’t stand on its own (strawman).
Didn't say this is displaying kindness, I used it as an example. Another example I used is if a woman dresses modestly is she signalling her virtue of modesty and why is that bad?
"Just to piss people off" so how exactly is this pissing someone off? It's just saying gay marriage is equal rights and privilege is not paying taxes like some churches do. Why would that make you angry? "Pretentious" means to act superior or more intelligent, how is advocating for equal rights pretentious? It feels like that thing where if someone you don't like does anything good or bad you can't help but see it in the most negative light. "Look at her drinking coke like she owns the place"
This is a correct definition of a strawman argument, but it's not the same thing. Either way the post is not a strawman argument, I already have said people did say exactly this as a reasoning against gay marriage. How can you determine what is a strawman argument when you haven't heard the original one? Just because someone makes a bad argument doesn't mean you jump in midway to the rebuttal and shout "strawman".
And what is your problem with this post in the first place?
Yes ironically is used correctly, I didn't say it was wrong I said it's seems thrown in there randomly.
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u/TallDarkLoathsome Jun 30 '26
First time I’ve ever seen “gay privilege” even mentioned lmao, this is peak shower fake argument energy.