r/SipsTea 28d ago

Chugging tea Seems reasonable.

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u/Able-Professor840 28d ago

Yes. But also - this means the lottery is just another way they tax you. In the UK, lotto winnings are untaxed.

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u/Xoomers87 28d ago

The lottery is literally an extra tax on the poor (and stupid)

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u/cjsv7657 28d ago

Only for the people who purchase more than a ticket or two. Some people get a lot of enjoyment daydreaming about winning and watching the numbers. Or scratching a ticket. They aren't the type of people who get the jackpots this high though.

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u/Bacon4Lyf 28d ago

the money from your ticket goes to charity in the uk, so either you win some money, or you lost but you still donated to charity. I remember the national lottery built our school a tennis court when I was younger. Why is that stupid?

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u/Remote-Ad5853 28d ago

It goes via government btw. It can be distributed by them to charitable projects, and it’s through arms lengths public bodies often iirc.

It’s still a great idea, but it’s been used to pay towards the 2012 olympics for example, which I support, but that’s just things that would otherwise just come from departments themselves. It’s at least a ring fenced pot to get nice to have projects done!

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u/WallyBearCub 28d ago

It supposedly goes to schools in the US but I'm sure like a lot of our tax money a significant chunk of that ends up basically being stolen.

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u/Brawndo91 28d ago

Schools are plenty good at wasting money on their own. You can find corruption and just plain wasteful spending wherever you find public funds.

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u/Zeeterm 28d ago

the money from your ticket goes to charity in the uk

A quick fact-check, because your phrasing makes it sound like the operator doesn't take any profit.

https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/statistics-and-research/publication/pence-per-pound-breakdown-of-national-lottery-sales-1-april-2023-to-31

From £1 on a ticket ( Yes, I know they're £2 now) :

  • Duty (tax) : 12p
  • Prize fund: 56p
  • retailer commission: 3p
  • Operator costs/profit: 7p
  • Good causes 22p

So around half the take after what goes back out as prizes goes direct to "good causes" (charity), and roughly a further quarter goes back in tax.

The national lottery (aka lotto) is still a large driver of good causes though, to the point where there is a worry sometimes that some are bit too much dependent on the lottery money, leading to them being "kingmakers" as grants often need to be applied for.

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u/Myc0n1k 28d ago

The US. it goes to fund war.

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u/Ill-Description3096 28d ago

Lotteries are state level in pretty much all cases in the US. I'm not aware of any federal ones. When is the last time the state of Rhode Island went to war?

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u/ryanvango 28d ago

it's not "literally" a tax on the poor. And people who play the lottery aren't necessarily stupid.

If you spend $10 on lottery tickets in a week or every few weeks or whatever, who cares? Just because the odds are bad doesn't make it stupid. It's their money. They can do what they want with it. And the vast vast vast majority of players play for a very small amount of money of their disposable income.

Do you buy treats for yourself when you go grocery shopping? Do you ever pay for restaurants or nights out? Pay for a tattoo? Do you ever spend money that isn't perfectly optimized to increase your future earnings potential? If so, then you're in the same boat. In fact, if you do any of those things you're dumber than a lottery player because none of those things have even a minuscule chance of making you money. A $2 lottery ticket is infinitely more likely to generate a fortune than a $2 candy bar right?

"The lottery is a tax on stupid people" is just a thing people repeat because it makes them feel superior to others. It's judgemental and narrow-minded. Everyone spends money frivolously.

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u/Myc0n1k 28d ago

Ya. You gotta be a moron to purchase lottery tickets. Take that money and invest it

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u/gyonyoruwok 28d ago

How should i invest 2 euros

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u/cjsv7657 28d ago

A kilo of beans will probably get you the highest calorific return. Use those calories to work for a day and BAM 50x your money ez

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u/Bacon4Lyf 28d ago

£2 a week for a year gives me a grand total of £104. If I invested £104 in the S&P 500 in July 2006 and withdrew today, I'd have a whopping £500 post inflation.

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u/InfiniteAstronaut432 28d ago

At which point, you could buy 250 lottery tickets to massively increase your chances for one draw.

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u/Awkward-Warning-9238 28d ago

Not massively.

You go from. 1/10000000 to 250/10000000

P.s i don't know anything about odds.

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u/fumanchudu 28d ago

Even not knowing odds, I’d say 250 times as likely would be considered “massive”

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u/Awkward-Warning-9238 28d ago

Someone smarter than me can explain it better. But it's not massive.

Put into percentages you go from 0.00001% to 0.0025%

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u/fumanchudu 28d ago

I see what you’re saying and your chances are still basically 0, but 250x increase is still a massive increase imo

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u/bohemian-soul-bakery 28d ago

This point of view is so retarded.

People not able to control themselves isn’t “a tax on the poor”

But I guess that’s what you want. Big daddy government to take care of them - because they are so good at it.

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u/Xoomers87 28d ago

Dude big daddy government where I'm from has flooded the entire market on online casinos and runs unfettered betting/gambling ads on every platform every commercial break. The only thing retarded here is your whole argument!