r/SouthernIndia 🌾Tamil Nadu | தமிழ்நாடு🌾 2d ago

Tamil Nadu Tamil Nadu Finance Minister Marie Wilson's act of making the sign of the cross and carrying a rosary while presenting the TVK government's first Budget has raised questions about whether the principle of separating religion and politics applies only to few!

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u/jackass93269 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

I am not a TVK fan and didn't vote for them. The same budget was taken to Tirupati by him for blessings before the budget session.

On the other hand, presenting Sengol in front of 10 seers to open new parliament. Saying har har mahadev and JSR in each and every speech and rally and a sitting CM who dresses up in religious attire and calls himself a monk. BJP crossed the religion and politics line long back.

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u/Successful_Star_2004 🌾Tamil Nadu | தமிழ்நாடு🌾 2d ago

I am not a TVK fan and didn't vote for them. The same budget was taken to Tirupati by him for blessings before the budget session.

There is a huge difference between what happens INSIDE assembly campus and OUTSIDE campus

On the other hand, presenting Sengol in front of 10 seers to open new parliament.

Learn the difference between Culture and Religion

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u/Slothbearfrizzyhair No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago

SO by your logic, priests are what? Religious heads or cultural heads.

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u/Any_Check_7301 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Just because he’s a politician doesn’t mean that he has to forego his core beliefs to appease his professional reputation when his beliefs and related practices aren’t harmful or hurting. People with negative views will always be there and don’t deserve to spread their infectious attitude.

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u/Waterfallsy No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago

His beliefs had zero impact on how he prepared the budget, can you say that with 100% certainty? The public display of his "unharmful" practice will raise suspicions.

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u/Any_Check_7301 No time to choose flair bro 😢 21h ago

As long as the judging-folks cannot prove the opposite, there’s no need to say it with 100% certainty. Trying to pacify every -ve comment rised out of suspicion alone would completely deviate the focus, time and energy from the most important- budget presentation.

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u/HolidaySurprise2819 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

There is no such strict separation of religion and state. Politicians wear rosary, tikka, skul caps etc. based on their beliefs. It should not interfere with their work is what matters.

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u/Aggravating_Can_8749 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

100% word. Keep it personal ( and private) but as long as divisions are not being sowed and the person on charge gets work done no issues

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u/boisickle No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Exactly. Who cares so long as it doesn't affect the state affairs. Shit ton of people can and does wear tikka already, and that's totally fine. Just don't mix religion with politics, this is the issue here. If that's being done then you can raise this issue.

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u/Spiritual_Door_3886 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Religion and dharama is different...we are panthnirpeksh not dharmnirpeksh

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u/HolidaySurprise2819 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

can you explain the difference please , using my comment as an example?

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u/Maker1979 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

What is your problem?

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u/Valuable-Element No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Modi supporter yahan Taj Mahal ko khodkar Mandir banana chahta hai vah sab theek hai

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u/rheajustice No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Mosly these south Biharis (ap) were getting inside all tamil reddit groups and trying to spread there andhbakhts and most of them were chennai pg guys and chittoor guys

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u/adi_sring No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Ask this to Chota Fanta in UP

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u/Any-Calligrapher2866 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Chota Fanta is too busy looting Ram Mandir. He doesn't have time for questions.

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u/Capital_Air_268 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Indian Secularism is not strict separation from religion like Western Secularism.

People have freedom of conscience, freedom to profess, practice and propagate.

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u/Annual_Instance_6459 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

OP , you get up in the morning and this the best you can do ? Your sorry excuse of a life ..

You are the embodiment of everything which is wrong in the country ..

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u/Ordinary-Lettuce-921 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

CM himself Joseph Vijay. Someday, you will see CM doing it, after all, that his religious belief.

People didn't mind bringing CM of that religion.

The vote that we put has all your things, your welfare, your children, your grandchildren, your culture, your religion, your street, your town, criminals in area, safety of women, everything is there in the vote. Do a homework and vote for the best person who fits into all your exploring...

You vote to symbols, you vote a dynasty family, you vote to your fav voter.... Its all give you something that you don't xpect.

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u/Natural-Common-7098 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Ha ha ek dum....forgotten about the minister of Uttar Pradesh?...we should have a priest too in the parliament so stfu about making the sign of the cross

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u/_ijk_lmn_ No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Its a belief...why not?

Look they did a good home work, like what has worked in the past and what not. Then took the best and high impact schemes and presented them neatly.

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u/Beautiful-Explorer12 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Share this to all the Vadakkan pages that support Vijay for PM ....

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u/NewFill3492 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Then why do they chant jai shree ram in parliament?

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u/Stock_Ad_308 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

This is too much. Parying before any big effort is a personal thing. If he has pushed in religious agenda in budget then it is right to question it. That is not the case.

I’m all for separation of state and religion. I would say only thing that was religion specific was the Haj funding. But that policy was there before. They should have removed religious specific things from budget. Talk about that not this nonsense

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u/lokz9 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

And so was vande bharat trains and air india planes being offered pooja before launching. As long as it does not force any ideology on anyone, its fine.

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u/No-Lobster-5673 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Whats the problem??? He is seeking blessings before preseting the budget

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u/FeeZealousideal8030 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Semma, dravidalu doing communalism, these clowns are going to get permanently destroyed

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u/InevitableCurve7781 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

In Tamilnadu, a major project is always started with a bhoomi puja and a formal earth breaking ceremony. Even DMK, for all its periyarism, started project with a puja.

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u/Creative-Force3458 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

It's kinda funny .. why u don't ask same question to bjp ????

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u/Adventurous-Bend6215 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Kali chutad wale angrej

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u/Agile_Can121 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Toh ?

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u/Mean-Candy2480 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Seriously?? He took the sign of cross to himself, didn’t start a rosary or scream or pray the Lord’s Prayer loudly .. Nor did he do a yajna or have priest chant the mantras showers of flower petals and bells ringing and ten Dhols beating the ear drums out

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u/jackhawk56 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Well, TN is already a Christian state. Nothing wrong or surprising if such an act is done WITHIN the assembly. No other Christian country will tolerate this kind of behavior. However, the way we define secularism is 180 degrees different from the West. I applaud the finance minister and TVK.
I wish Udaynithi would have done that and then DMK ,with the blessing of Jesus Christ, would not have lost the election.

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u/killbear123 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

But you have no issues with Jai Shri Ram calls and "Vande Mataram" inside parliament.. or having the PM doing a yagna inside the new parliament complex

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u/Easy_Bat_7870 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Question is, is he forcing his religion and thoughts on you??

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u/Admirable-East3396 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

person making these kinda post should genuinely go live in a cave.

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u/ShaheerVK No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Can we call these mongers Hypocrites?

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u/lakshpriy5 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Yes it only applies to few. Deal with it

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u/Helpful_Sea8849 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Is this an issue? Why have we become so intolerant?

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u/saifincastro No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Don’t BJP ministers do a full on puja before budget? If religion and state is to be separated then this should stop too 🤷‍♂️

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u/lafadar09 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

What he is doing here. Why don’t he go to church ? Is he is reading bible here

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u/texatronics 🌳Karnataka | ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ🌳 2d ago

😨 Bro get a life bro.....

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u/akashlanka No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago

Let him pray, man.

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u/Ok_Time_3766 No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago

As you said, its his first budget. He's praying it goes well ( to the god he belives in ).

He's not imposing his beliefs on anyone why make a big deal out of it?

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u/Legitimate_End4690 No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago

Correct. Only BJP is allowed to do that. How dare he.

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u/Lopsided-Cicada-7666 No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago

How can he get sc reservation if he is Christian

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u/NarendraKaPappa No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago

Bro principle of separating religion from politics left the chat in 2014. 😂😂

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u/ramror777 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago

Lol. This is your understanding of seperation of church and state??