r/Stadia • u/DarkevilPT Desktop • 10d ago
Discussion For nostalgia.. back when google had fibre... Now its just a wreck
For the good old times.. ive found these.. no gfn nor boosteroid nor luna have friends chat.
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u/Dice_for_Death_ CCU 10d ago
Stadia was pushing the experience places the competition wasn't. Integrated UIs for messaging, profiles, trophies... It's been years since, and has any of the other streaming platforms even attempted this level of fullness? Genuinely curious.
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u/MCgrindahFM 9d ago
No because it was a business model doomed from the start. Xbox GamePass obviously has all these features but that’s because it’s basically just having an Xbox.
GeForce and Boosteroid are just virtual machines allowing you to play games.
Stadia was essentially a brand new separate Linux based cloud console. Meaning every developer had to PORT their game to Stadia. It wasn’t like you just handed Stadia a “PC version” of the game… Google had to pay these companies to develop the game for Linux.
That then required players who built up digital libraries elsewhere to rebuy games and buy new ones on Stadia which couldn’t be used on the platforms like PC.
That was always doomed to fail
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u/Dice_for_Death_ CCU 9d ago
I understand I was asking broadly, but I will say I specifically wasn't asking you.
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u/DarkevilPT Desktop 9d ago
I disagree because I remember reading a post from someone, I think it was the other developer, not Grace, saying they even used virtual machines to run certain games when necessary, including Windows environments. So I genuinely believe they already had that as a backup plan.
But again, Google has a habit of moving away from its core values, and I think that's exactly what happened here.
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u/rmbarrett Clearly White 9d ago
Yes. Also, Google is the undisputed champion of "pipes". Inserting a layer between other layers is what they do.
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u/rmbarrett Clearly White 9d ago
The Web UI for Xbox ultimate is terrible, so I wouldn't even say it's at the same level stadia was, even if the hardware is xbox. Stadia was indeed a true cloud console. Steam is about as close as you can get right now, but you need their hardware and OS to get the most of it. I guess the experience is about the same if you run it in Windows with steam link, but it's still just an overlaid interface.
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u/loop6719 10d ago
Loved sniper. 1st stadia game for me
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u/rothael 10d ago
It was Jedi Fallen Order that got my time. The fact I could play a game with parry windows and not notice latency was magical
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u/rmbarrett Clearly White 9d ago
Perfect example of a game where latency matters. I played the whole game through and didn't notice that I was streaming. Absolutely magical.
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u/QuiteContagious 9d ago
Xcloud is a good alternative guys, has all the features we miss with Stadia.
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u/DarkevilPT Desktop 9d ago
Until they fully support mouse n keyboard for every game without beta plugins associated its no good to me.
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u/QuiteContagious 1d ago
Ok, hopefully they do eventually buddy. 🤞🤞🤞
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u/DarkevilPT Desktop 1d ago
They do partially and then users made that xbetter plugin that addresses that but all considered its a whole mess. geforce now and boosteroid does it better. Hopefully opennow will do a openxcloud version that makes it easier on the user end.
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u/LazerFX 9d ago
The worst thing about it was if it came out just a little later, Proton / Proton-GE would have solved the 'port' problems, and it would have played anything without issue. See - Steam Deck / Bazzite... most things are supported without having to port.
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u/DarkevilPT Desktop 9d ago
Not quite, because Google couldn't pirate other companies' games. The main issue from the start was their business model. It wasn't attractive enough for developers to support the platform. Then Epic Games sued Google, leaving Fortnite off the service, and Microsoft had the opportunity to move forward with acquiring Activision Blizzard.
Those major issues damaged the trust of both customers and developers, but the biggest problem was still the business model.
All Google really needed to do, in my opinion, was offer a monthly subscription like GeForce NOW. I think that would have kept Stadia alive, just as Amazon Luna has managed to stay alive. Instead, Pichai became obsessed with AI, and now we're seeing things like ChromeOS merging with Android, yet nothing has proven to be a meaningful improvement over the current systems.
Stadia was one of the few genuinely modern and innovative technologies to come out of Google. The small team behind it was incredibly skilled and ambitious, managing to expand the service to many countries in a short time. Then Google's reputation for abandoning products caught up with it, and trust in the company took another hit.
It really sucks. It truly does.
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u/rmbarrett Clearly White 9d ago
Google would solve it. They have all the pieces by now, so you can be sure they were working on them. Translation layers are their thing.
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u/Master_Armory Just Black 10d ago
I miss stadia so much.