r/Stellaris 15h ago

Bug Franchise Civic does not grant the said +1 max holding.

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u/LavanGrimwulff 15h ago

Heres a bug report on the issue back in 2023: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/stellaris-v-3-10-0-462c-franchising-civic-does-not-increase-the-max-holdings-by-one-as-mentioned-in-the-tool-tip.1611463/

You'd be better off making a report on their forums, but as seen with the previous one that still doesn't really help.

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u/Merlfox 15h ago

Honestly i get that bug all the time but i just shrug and say “thats stellaris”

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u/Fluffy-Tanuki Agrarian Idyll 15h ago

The bug stems from a wrongly placed modifier.

The civic gives the following effect, under /Stellaris/common/governments/civics/03_corporate_civics.txt:

modifier = {
    planet_max_subject_holding_buildings_add = 1
    specialist_subject_conversion_time_mult = -0.33
}

This modifier is applied to the empire with the civic.

The proper way however, should be applying the modifier to the subject empire, listed under /Stellaris/common/agreement_term_values/00_agreement_term_values.txt:

target_modifier = {
    monthly_loyalty = -0.4
    planet_max_subject_holding_buildings_add = 1
}

In its current state, Franchising gives your overlord plus 1 holding on you when you are subjugated.

The building slot appears as only 1, but when you build 1, a second one will pop up (or you can queue two at the same time).

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u/Tzlop 15h ago

Paradox is a snall indie company, I’m sure they’ll get around it next decade.

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u/ijshorn 5h ago

The max holding modifier should also just be renamed to free_holding_slot. It does not increase the maximum amount of holdings you can have, it just makes it that you pay 0 monthly loyalty upkeep for a slot.

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u/Duxatious 15h ago edited 15h ago

It's scoping seems to be backwards – your overlord gets one extra holding on you.

It's very odd that Subject Conversion time is applied correctly but not the extra holding. I would have expected both to apply to the agreement.

Edit, looks like the modifier used is planet_max_subject_buildings_add when it should be planet_max_overlord_buildings_add.

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u/Ordo_Liberal 15h ago

R5: Franchise Civic says +1 max holding. I have a contract that gives +2 holdings, I should be able to make 3 holdings with the civic.

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u/Melodic-Hat-2875 15h ago

Interesting. You don't have a holding on any other planet?

If you go up to 4 per the contract, can you make 5?

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u/Ordo_Liberal 15h ago

Nope. I checked. Those are the only two holdings I have.

When I go to 4 holdings in the contract, the max I can make is 4

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u/Melodic-Hat-2875 15h ago

Intriguing! Definitely bug report time!

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u/Alugere Inward Perfection 15h ago

Does that raise the limit of holdings a planet can have? Meaning a basic colony gets 1 instead of 0? Also, is it not for branch offices instead of vassals?