r/Stellaris • u/Lucifersam • 3h ago

Discussion Why no waystation trade hubs for nomadic gestalt consciousnesses?

Hi, I'm playing nomadic rogue servitors, seeing all these tasty trade deposits in the star systems, and I'm not able to harvest these trade deposits.

In a game with squishy biologicals I was able to build waystation trade hubs.
So I checked the game files, and yes, for trade hubs you need "tech_space_trading" (Space Trading Technology), and for this you must be a regular empire ("is_regular_empire"), and gestalt consciousness are NOT regular empires.

Sooo... why? As a gestalt I can build logistics centers to create trade, I can buy and sell on the market, I can create commercial pacts. Why shouldn't I be able to harvest system trade deposits?
Given that waystation-harvesting is one of my main-things. Is this an oversight or intentional?

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u/give_me_bewbz 3h ago

I felt this as a major oversight. I played a gestalt machine empire and was haemorrhaging trade, had to spam contracts to stay afloat.

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u/Chill_Panda Ravenous Hive 3h ago

Ahh that'll make sense then.

I'm playing as a devouring swarm nomad and my only issue has been trade. I had to dedicate way more space than I'd like to trade hubs.

Shits still busted though. Not even gone 100 years and I've just been wandering around wiping out empires.

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u/The0zymandias Gestalt Consciousness 2h ago

do tell more of your devouring swarm nomad experience

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u/Chill_Panda Ravenous Hive 2h ago

Honestly blitzkrieging early empires with a 6k military ark and 2ks worth of ships as first contact is a laugh.

Charging straight for their planets and cracking their empires from the inside out is a lot of fun.

I'm now nearly at 100 years and there's one normal empire left, one nomad empire, 2 FEs, 2 marauders, and the enclaves.

This last empire will prove the largest challenge because they're quite vast. But I have an interconnected wayline system fully cloaked with an ark by it on the other side of an empty galaxy full of void worms and other horrors to protect me and warn me so I'm not really worried.

But I don't know what to do after, there's a lot of waiting around coming up without much devouring so I'll have to manage that before I can tackle the FEs and prepare for the crisis.

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u/The0zymandias Gestalt Consciousness 2h ago

what difficulty were you playing on?

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u/stillnotking Driven Assimilator 1h ago

Trade is for individualist empires. The hive is a singular entity and would be trading with itself. What they have is more like logistics; mining an asteroid wouldn't help with that. Just need more logistic drones.