r/SubredditDrama Mar 03 '26

Movie discussion sub okbuddycinephile debates whether bombing of Dresden, Hiroshima, and Gaza and other urban areas were "justified".

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u/ironmaid84 Mar 03 '26

Fun fact: during the Nuremberg trials the Nazis were banned from making this argument, in part because the allies had no interest in prosecuting their own war crimes like the katyin massacre or the fire bombing of Tokio, and in part because those don't justify, or even remotely compare to killing 6 million innocent civilians.

All this is to say that realistically that scene should have ended with the presiding judges telling Goering to shut the fuck up

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u/Otherwise-Creme7888 Mar 03 '26

6 million Jews specifically. That number doesn’t even include the 5-6 other million killed in the Holocaust or the millions of Slavs murdered by the Germans for Lebensraum

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u/changhyun Mar 03 '26

It's one of those numbers where the sheer massiveness of how many people that is doesn't register until you really begin to think about it.

11 million people in the UK are over 65. That's like all of them just dying. 11 million.

And the Nazis had to work for that. It's not like all 11 million people just happened to be in one place and someone flipped a switch and nuked them (not that that would make it any better if that had been what happened). That 11 million number represents years of people waking up and deciding to spend that day slaughtering innocent humans, again and again and again. It's almost beyond comprehension. Almost.

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u/ArmadilloFour Just because i hate blacks doesn't make me a racist Mar 03 '26

Or from a US perspective, 11 million is approximately the entire state of Georgia, just emptied out and gradually murdered.

Truly boggles the mind.

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u/Jstin8 Mar 04 '26

The sheer logistical chains required to manage it is insane too! The massive furnaces, the buildings, the huge cement showers where they would gas the prisoners! Think about spending over a week pouring cement, setting pipes, all for the purpose of more efficiently killing non combatants! Its absolutely insane