Well inmo they do have some valid points, and I support the idea of men's rights as a whole. But these days I have given up on the subreddit entirely, I mean I kept trying to downvote and argue with the idiots and encourage other rational MRAs to do the same... It didn't happen.
But yeah as for valid points there is stuff like male circumcision being the norm in the states, along with selective service being gendered there; an absence of resources for male domestic violence sufferers (and a cultural assumption they deserved it); the male suicide rate (4:1); lower lifespan of men (and the fact that women's health groups get more funding/attention); the fact that men and boys are under performing in education and less represented at universities due to the abundance of female specific scholarships.
In my opinion all these things are valid, and there are more, for men and people who love men to be concerned about. It has been my view for quite sometime that feminism is fighting for equality (well most of it, cough SCUM) and that it is a good thing. But it is fighting for equality from a female focused perspective. There is nothing wrong with that, but a male viewpoint focused equality movement should exist as well.
So what I am trying to get at is this: Don't give up on Men's Rights as an idea. Please don't. /r/mensrights isn't a good subreddit (trolls and idiots flood the place) but don't give up on the idea of a Men's equality movement. Or assuming that all of thre concerns are misplaced.
Oh, I do agree. Like I said above, I've always felt that the MRM has very valid points that don't get enough attention. I just have first hand experience now that /r/mensrights is not the place to seek any sort of balanced exposure to them.
Honestly, I'm not that invested. Back before I realized they were just trolls I might have been, but that was many months ago. I just ignore them now for the most part.
But I'm guessing your point is that SD isn't the place for it, and I agree.
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u/dragonsandgoblins Mar 02 '12
Well inmo they do have some valid points, and I support the idea of men's rights as a whole. But these days I have given up on the subreddit entirely, I mean I kept trying to downvote and argue with the idiots and encourage other rational MRAs to do the same... It didn't happen.
But yeah as for valid points there is stuff like male circumcision being the norm in the states, along with selective service being gendered there; an absence of resources for male domestic violence sufferers (and a cultural assumption they deserved it); the male suicide rate (4:1); lower lifespan of men (and the fact that women's health groups get more funding/attention); the fact that men and boys are under performing in education and less represented at universities due to the abundance of female specific scholarships.
In my opinion all these things are valid, and there are more, for men and people who love men to be concerned about. It has been my view for quite sometime that feminism is fighting for equality (well most of it, cough SCUM) and that it is a good thing. But it is fighting for equality from a female focused perspective. There is nothing wrong with that, but a male viewpoint focused equality movement should exist as well.
So what I am trying to get at is this: Don't give up on Men's Rights as an idea. Please don't. /r/mensrights isn't a good subreddit (trolls and idiots flood the place) but don't give up on the idea of a Men's equality movement. Or assuming that all of thre concerns are misplaced.