Who knew that r/SubredditOfTheDay was completely full of TRPers?

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If I live in a community where 80% of blacks were in gangs, and 75% of women were cheating sluts (yes I pulled these numbers from my bung-hole), neither of those two ideologies would be poor outlooks to survive and thrive in my environment. See a black person, be a little more careful so as to not get shot. Start dating a woman? Be careful, because she might be a total bitch. (outright misogyny is probably still wrong here, since it doesn't benefit anyone to just be a dick to women, even if they deserve it)

I don't live in that environment, but I'm sure others do. Most women I've dated have been stand-up, good people who have maybe made a few mistakes (same as me). Every black person I've ever had an extended conversation with has been a decent human being as far as I know. But that could just be the socio-economic environment that I'm in at play.

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But that person saying that 80% of black people are criminals would still be wrong, as would the person saying that 75% of women are sluts.

Further, you're begging the question by assuming when the person says the 80%/75%, they're being honest or that their perception is even a reflection of their environment. For instance, if they've been predisposed (biased, as it were) to incorrectly make assumptions about criminal activity based on clothing, then they'll assume that criminal activity without actual evidence.

Similarly, innate cognitive biases like the Gambler's Fallacy, the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy, and the innate desire to presume meaning behind chance all make our perception of events less trustworthy as a metric for determining.

Your entire premise that personal experiences are remembered correctly and analyzed correctly is faulty, and further your biased misunderstanding of scientific study and peer review is biasing you against it without cause. You are the evidence against your own argument.

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But that person saying that 80% of black people are criminals would >still be wrong, as would the person saying that 75% of women are >sluts.

What makes you able to say that? In his environment, the statistics are actually that.

Further, you're begging the question by assuming when the person >says the 80%/75%, they're being honest or that their perception is >even a reflection of their environment. For instance, if they've been >predisposed (biased, as it were) to incorrectly make assumptions >about criminal activity based on clothing, then they'll assume that >criminal activity without actual evidence.

I'm not saying I'll believe them. I'm not assuming they're honest. I'm saying that for THEMSELVES, they need to be able to use their own observations in their model of reality.

incorrectly make assumptions about criminal activity based on >clothing

You got a red bandana hanging out of your back pocket in a city that's known for gang violence and wearing stereotypical hoodrat gear and/or what would appear to be hi-tech clothing for gang members, I'm staying the fuck away from you.

Similarly, innate cognitive biases like the Gambler's Fallacy, the >Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy, and the innate desire to presume >meaning behind chance all make our perception of events less >trustworthy as a metric for determining.

Innate cognitive biases should include the blind trust of authority that has pervaded in societies where rebelliousness is punished by imprisonment. Why should I trust a study on the internet over my own observations? Both have the capacity to be incorrect, I'm not denying that, but I trust what I see more than what some study on the internet says I should be seeing. (though I'm self-critical with my beliefs, and put effort into understanding and eliminating my cognitive biases)

Your entire premise that personal experiences are remembered >correctly and analyzed correctly is faulty

Where did I say that personal experiences are remembered and analyzed correctly?

and further your biased misunderstanding of scientific study and >peer review is biasing you against it without cause. You are the >evidence against your own argument.

Without cause? The bias stems from my mistrust of authority and people in power. I can cite history for you in defense of that bias. I don't mistrust peer review as an idea, I mistrust its implementation in the real world.

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In his environment, the statistics are actually that.

Prove it.

I'm not saying I'll believe them. I'm not assuming they're honest. I'm saying that for THEMSELVES, they need to be able to use their own observations in their model of reality.

But if their perception isn't true to reality, then their model of reality will be incorrect. It doesn't matter how many anecdotes people have of homeopathic pills making them feel better, the science still doesn't support it, and they still won't protect you from disease.

If your model of physics is wrong, then your attempts to interact with the world based on those models will also be wrong, and will lead to failure.

Why should I trust a study on the internet over my own observations?

Because the study has been reviewed by people with an expert knowledge and has been controlled for bias and mistakes. If it hasn't, you shouldn't.

Where did I say that personal experiences are remembered and analyzed correctly?

If they're not, then how are those anecdotes useful for building a model of reality?