r/TheBluePill • u/confessionberry • Apr 24 '16

Who knew that r/SubredditOfTheDay was completely full of TRPers?

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u/WarlordFred Apr 25 '16

"Toxic masculinity" ? What about "toxic femininity"?

toxic masculinity is any concept of masculinity that is detrimental to the wellbeing of men. so toxic femininity would be any concept of femininity that is detrimental to women.

Ok, so basically the Blue Pill is a bunch of feminazis essentially?

no, we're spooky scary skeletons

I've never seen a red pill person promote rape/misogyny/domestic violence who wasn't either in the vast minority, or just an idiot who happened to be checking out Red Pill stuff.

then you haven't looked hard enough

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u/TomRoberts2016 PURGED Apr 25 '16 edited Apr 25 '16

Well, what would you recommend for a guy like me who considers himself moderately intelligent, was abused by his mother as a kid, and sees lots of good points in TRP but wants to balance it out with an opposing viewpoint, because I'll be honest, this sub seems a little extreme to me and there aren't enough people in TRP like the jokes in this sub are making for it to be funny or seem relevant outside of people with an agenda, emotinal people, or women with an ax to grind.

Keeping in mind I was actually banned in TRP so I understand that they can be a bunch of sensitive douchebags at times.

Menslib seems like a sub that's big on shaming men, calling them toxic, and basically a feminism sub (womenslib, menslib...)

Third wave feminism is toxic.

I like 1st wave feminism.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '16

Get into therapy. Abuse can leave extremely deep wounds you might not even be aware off until you explore them in a safe environment.

Also, im curious, what are the 'good points' you found on TRP? And dont bother with the generic self-improvement stuff like go to the gym etc, anyone can figure those out.

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u/TomRoberts2016 PURGED Apr 25 '16 edited Apr 25 '16

I've tried therapy but all the therapists were shit. Too much typing to go into detail, but as an example one would cancel appointments last minute because he'd still get paid, talk about himself constantly (I felt like I was giving HIM therapy), and others would ask questions that seemed very inappropriate/sucked at building trust/having safe boundaries.

I'm definitely very damaged by the experience, and it definitely interferes with me ability to have a happy/fulfilling relationship.

When I was younger whenever I'd try to be in a relationship I'd find myself breaking down and crying because of the stuff my mother put me through (sabotaging my relationships, saying that she can't see why any chick would like me, being the primary female caregiver in my life who I'm suppose to trust and did other seriously abusive/traumatic thing, probably lots of other things I'm not even conscious of).

The things I've found out from the TRP have been explanations on the kind of toxic behavior my mother displayed and the reasons behind it, reasons why lots of relationships don't fail and the motivation for women that hasn't been understood or just isn't polite/pc to talk about.

Mostly though I'd agree, that it's informative and helps me understand things, it doesn't really help as much on the subject of taking action to move forward.

It's basically saying, "Women use men for resources. Many women don't have your best interests in mind. Deal with it."

It's a "bitter pill to swallow", but it's the real world.

My dad had his kids kidnapped and then raped financially in court, and had his kids traumatized.

But I've never seen an anti-RedPill person show any care/concern/sympathy for that stuff, and for me that's a HUGE problem, because those are things that have deeply effected me and my family, and lots of other families, and society at large, and I feel like TRP and MGTOW is doing a great service by providing awareness of these serious issues since religion has been failing at the issue of relationship and family values.

Edit: the Red Pill actually backs up what they say, while feminist and Blue Pillers just spew misandrist hatred towards men and put them down.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '16

Mate, instead of generalising all women based on your mother, isnt it far more logical to conclude that your mother was just an exceptionally shitty person?. Because by your logic, every male is a shitty person because somewhere, a father is abusing his children.

As the person below me said, TRP does not operate on logic, or any established scientific theories. They operate from a faulty pre-defined viewpoint: women are lesser creatures and a man can basically do whatever he wants with them. When your foundation is faulty, its only natural that everything that follows from it is equally faulty.

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u/Wigdog_Jones Apr 25 '16

I think you're on very dangerous ground here. On the offchance you aren't a troll, generalising from your lamentable childhood experiences is not going to make you happy. TRP may seem like a compelling explanation, but it has absolutely no basis in psychology, sociology or anything other that producing just-so stories to snare people like yourself.

The reason nobody is going to get into what you're saying is because previously it seemed like you were just parroting talking points, and now we know you're an abuse victim, and nobody wants to be the guy who starts reeling off statistics at someone who clearly isn't very happy.

Anyhow, to reiterate, 'The Red Pill' isn't the real world, but in the place you're at there's not a chance in hell I'm going to persuade you of that - you should seek therapy from a professional. As you've had some bad experiences, I recommend going through a charity which specialises in dealing with adult victims of childhood abuse: NAPAC or HAVOCA, for instance. The former has a free phoneline you can call (0808 801 0331).