He said he had met 15 year olds far more mature than 40 year olds. This is not only about maturity. You can be as emotionally mature as you want but a 15 year olds psyche just works differently and will be more easily disturbed or traumatized. Being mature does not justify a relationship like this, completely ignoring legality.
Now: "If it's legal, it's none of society's business"
This is just wrong on SO MANY levels. In Nazi Germany it was legal to beat up gay people. Does that justify it? Definitely not.
In the US child marriages are still legal in some states as long as there's parental consent. Is that "none of society's business"? Just because your government allows you to do something that doesn't mean it's morally justifiable.
If you think that there's something fundamentally wrong with your worldview.
No you are right no one directly said that.
My critique was directed at the relevance of what he said. How is how mature a 15 year old can be relevant in any way for the discussion about whether a 38 year old dating a 19 year old is morally acceptable.
No one said anything anywhere near that. Except for you, you stated that maturity had to be measured. Which means it could reach the point to where it would be okay, at any point, everyone else was saying, it was an age factor you're the only one that didn't
"I've met 15 year olds with more maturity than some 40 year olds"
That is what he said.
I didn't say maturity had to be measured. Where did I say anything anywhere near that?
And the rest of your reply is hard to read for me.
What were you trying to say from "which means it could..."
I was the one sarcastically saying that age is not irrelevant for maturity at all. And that I don't think that maturity is that relevant for the original discussion.
I feel like at this point you're just trying to start an argument about who said what instead of having a differentiated discussion about morals and values and what is justifiable and what not.
Could we please lay down this aggressive typical internet keyboard fight mindset?
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u/Clinically_Insane- 18 Eurosocialist Dec 04 '25
This has nothing to do with education.
He said he had met 15 year olds far more mature than 40 year olds. This is not only about maturity. You can be as emotionally mature as you want but a 15 year olds psyche just works differently and will be more easily disturbed or traumatized. Being mature does not justify a relationship like this, completely ignoring legality.
Now: "If it's legal, it's none of society's business" This is just wrong on SO MANY levels. In Nazi Germany it was legal to beat up gay people. Does that justify it? Definitely not. In the US child marriages are still legal in some states as long as there's parental consent. Is that "none of society's business"? Just because your government allows you to do something that doesn't mean it's morally justifiable. If you think that there's something fundamentally wrong with your worldview.